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Comment by Charlieholtz 1 day ago

Hi! Co-founder here. Conductor actually kicked off with a HN post many lifetimes ago in July 2025 (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44594584). I owe so much to this community. Thank you all so much!

The whole team is around to help answer any questions. You can reach out to me personally at charlie [at] melty.sh.

Comment by kylecazar 1 day ago

"... many lifetimes ago in 2025"

This made me laugh. The world is different now. Congrats!

Comment by 999900000999 1 day ago

Are you going to retire now and start a band ?

Congratulations, getting an exit in a bit over a year is very very good

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Comment by adam-eclse 1 day ago

Just wanted to congratulate you guys. Like many of us here, I had a mixed reaction of happy for your team, but also sad for Conductor. I tried a bunch of different approaches for coding agents, once I started using Conductor I was like "oh I guess I'm done looking for a harness" - a beautiful clean UI, great UX and just an overall smooth experience with all the features you could need.

Hopefully Meta does something good with your team's talent and technology, but regardless, it was a huge productivity boost for me and I really appreciate that. Good luck to you and your team at Meta!

Comment by sksum 1 day ago

Best shipping speed I've experienced for a product like this. Great run!

Consider Open Sourcing the core/app

Comment by apsurd 1 day ago

im so curious what specifically makes this possible. I have no experience with conductor but your comment reminds me of how impressed I was with the development speed of parse.com. I'm likely dating myself; it was the first serverless/firebase backend concept that supported mobile app development. I wasn't even a user I just noted how prolific the feature rollouts were. So polished too. They got acqui-hired by Meta and I'm sure the founders did well.

Anyway, for anyone reading, just a not developer-led products. How do they do it?!

Comment by gadders 1 day ago

Not a user but congrats and I hope you make fat stacks.

Comment by yard2010 1 day ago

I loved the autographs at the bottom. It gives a nice feeling. Way to go!

Comment by ckx 1 day ago

Congrats! This is only the beginning of your journey!

Comment by jahala 1 day ago

I'm in the awkward position of wanting to congratulate you and scold you at the same time. Wish you'd been bought by Anthropic or something instead. Anyhow- congrats on getting scooped up.

Comment by breznev 1 day ago

What value could they possibly provide Anthropic? This is by far the best-case scenario for the team

Comment by jahala 1 day ago

A great, stable product - that doesn't try to be absolutely everything - but does a few things really well, and looks great while doing it?

Comment by ipaddr 1 day ago

That's not Anthropic.

Comment by dbbk 1 day ago

Conductor is really no different from Claude Code Desktop now, aside from multiple harness and models

Comment by swaptr 1 day ago

To my understanding Muse has finally caught up to Anthropic, OAI and others atleast on coding and other benchmarks. This move makes the most sense to now quickly try to capture the market.

Comment by temp123477 1 day ago

You lads... I remember when we had to paste the code from the chat window into VSCode.

Comment by steve_adams_86 1 day ago

Remember when 200k was a HUGE context window, but you still had to be precious about how many files you'd paste into it?

Comment by oliwary 1 day ago

I remember when most of my work came down to how to deal with the 512 token window of BERT.

Comment by MisterMunchkin 22 hours ago

Remember using the models pre-thinking? I had to build thinking into ChatGPT requests manually.

(I wonder if they stole that idea from my logs…)

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Comment by jasonjmcghee 1 day ago

Congrats Charlie!

Comment by hridyaagrawal 1 day ago

congrats to the team!

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Comment by markerz 1 day ago

Things will shut down over the next few months. https://www.conductor.build/announcement:

    Wednesday, Nov 4 New users can no longer sign up for Conductor or download the app.

    Friday, Nov 13 Conductor Cloud goes read-only

    Local Conductor will continue working as normal for now. It will start winding down in early 2027.
Flashback to Cloudflare acquiring Deno and hiding the shutdown at the bottom of their announcement -- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50019911.

Comment by harlequinetcie 1 day ago

I think this is the sad part about it.

I wonder what would be the way to protect OSS like this from this kind of end?

It's a great win for the team, but many will be looking into other solutions for a while.

Comment by fn-mote 1 day ago

Months? More like weeks.

Comment by brainless 1 day ago

I really fail to understand what is going on here.

There is literally no moat in most software expect the users a product has acquired. The number of slightly different solution to an existing product is wild. And this is getting crazier. I build for the fun of it now. Completely lost any sight of $ goals.

I am building agents, have own gui framework, own server orchestration, and now looking at deploying multi-app servers using unikernels. I build for my niche audience and make them happy - I am going via my existing clients who are in the property management domain. Non technical folks who have to handle everything from inspection to finance. My ideal type of folks.

I am sure by the time I build my end to end agent/orchestration/deployment/management system, I will have some customers and many more clones. Slightly different clones. This is the future. Why would anyone acquire anything?

They need my prompts, not my tech.

Comment by sksum 1 day ago

Companies acquire talent ;Companies acquire products with a fast-growing usage base ;Companies acquire products that can help them beat competition in a fraction of the time it would take to build internally (in decreasing order of "real value" and increasing order of self-deception)

I feel its less about the tech and more about the stage Meta and Conductor are in, right now

Comment by potamic 1 day ago

In this case they're shutting down the product, so it's definitely not for the product or for the user base.

Comment by chrisgarand 1 day ago

That's not necessarily true. They can be using it to jumpstart their own desktop app.

I don't see a Muse desktop app, this gives them something they can spin up in a few weeks, not months, with native cloud integration. I'd guess we're going to see a product competing with OpenAi/Anthropic (as far as standalone apps are concerned) by January.

Comment by walthamstow 1 day ago

100%. I'm seeing it as a repeat of the VS Code fork wars. Funnily enough, nobody won that war. The paradigm disappeared entirely.

Comment by brainless 1 day ago

You mean that desktop app is not something I can spin up in days with my tiniest of LLM budgets?

I do not know where people are lost these days. I build ambitious apps with 3x $20 subscriptions. And I live in a village in eastern Himalayas. People are really in a bubble.

LLMs have crushed the idea of "using [another product] to jumpstart" anything. Just build it.

Comment by coded_monkey 1 day ago

Yes you can build it in a single prompt, but you miss the 93 versions of iterations and thoughts of the developers who've already made the project. If you have the money, why not buy a product/team that already has a year of experience with real users instead of reinventing the wheel?

Comment by brainless 1 day ago

That is your assumption. I am not talking about one-shot. I mean that lots are people are going through more iterative development cycles than ever in the history of software. Just my own examples (100% agent written)

https://github.com/brainless/nocodo, https://github.com/brainless/dwata, https://github.com/brainless/akar, https://github.com/brainless/baho

All these and more, from a single engineer with 3 x $20 subscriptions. While I also run chicken and pig farms. It will take time for people outside tech hubs to understand what LLMs enable.

Comment by cgio 1 day ago

Not that I don’t think there’s amazing things that can be built easier, but designing and building a product is more than writing the code. Look at where you spent effort for your own examples. There’s a skill there which goes further than just reverse engineering an existing solution, and that skill is obviously of value to Meta. People were going crazy for the price they paid for instagram some years ago I remember.

Comment by chrisgarand 1 day ago

Here's a quote to think about. LLM's are great, but they're only one part of the recipe:

“Anyone could make a videogame last week, anyone could make a videogame five years ago... nothing has changed.”

Comment by DrBazza 1 day ago

Companies also acquire data, and then discard the 'talent'.

Comment by isolay 1 day ago

Or they’re just getting rid of the competition.

Comment by brainless 1 day ago

These were true in pre-LLM era. Cursor is a good example. Big numbers but what is the value in a year?

Sure they had a lot of growth but when there are a 100 alternatives, each offering something a bit different, then user bleed is natural.

Meta, Google and all big co will spend more $ short-term to buy and they will continue to bleed till the new playbook sets in the minds of execs.

Comment by sksum 1 day ago

talent it is then;

both acquihires and products will get cheaper, could the new playbook be the OG marketplace ?

Comment by grey-area 1 day ago

They don't need your prompts. Ideas have never been hard to come up with.

The hard work is in building something over years, supporting customers who want something you don't, persuading people to trust you and pay money for things, making hard choices to keep a product on track, etc.

None of these things are any easier, as you'll find out if you try to sell the things you have made. The first step is the easiest and it's hard to stick with things.

Comment by altmanaltman 1 day ago

I mean okay but you're looking at two very different things. At your description, it makes no sense to acquire your business. But Conductor is not building for a niche audience and is a radically different beast. Even before this acquisition they raised over 20 mil. You're using very naive thinking when you're talking about value here, its not as simple as why buy a company when someone can vibecode it. This is particularly funny because its usually AI labs that are following through with some of the biggest buys lately.

Comment by brainless 1 day ago

Why do you think how I am building is not going to be the norm? Software is going the way of plumbing. Pick a tiny niche, build highly customized workflows and sell to them. Global products finding audience across 100 countries is no longer working.

Raising money was not an indicator of value before LLMs but it helped a lot. I have been tech lead of a couple US based seed-funded startups and I definitely see the value.

But most software has no intrinsic hard engineering these days. A few do. Companies raise money because they feel they will grow into a large user-base. Then, either make money or get acquired. Where is "value" here? Its VC-speak all the way.

Privately funded AI labs in the US are buying, yes. I highly doubt this trend will go on when the return on investment starts fading. There is momentum in executives. The "value" is how they used to see things. Takes time to update.

Comment by altmanaltman 1 day ago

Nobody's wrong or right. It's just comparing apples to bananas.

Comment by paultannenbaum 1 day ago

Heavy conductor user here. Does the hacker news community have any suggestions for replacements?

Comment by 2001zhaozhao 1 day ago

I will always recommend T3 Code, it is by far the best one I have tried that isn't glued to a specific model provider. Trades blows with Codex / Claude Desktop in terms of features. All of the other multi-provider orchestrators have not been keeping up with Claude Desktop in particular adding features at lightning-speed, but T3 Code somehow manages.

(I am building my own tool in this area and I literally downloaded and tried all of them as market research)

Comment by isege 1 day ago

I second this. T3 code especially for remote machine workflows is unmatched.

Comment by yewenjie 1 day ago

Wait, there's something called Claude Desktop that's actually useful for non-non-technical people?

Comment by twalla 1 day ago

there are so many and I'm sure something has changed since I last checked but:

- paseo: open, mobile app is a first class citizen, i've been happy with it

- orca: vc backed, featureful (built in ios sim, for example)

- herdr: vc backed, terminal native, im sure there are more features since i last checked it

- t3: open, never used it but folks seem to like it

Comment by nwparker 1 day ago

https://orca.dev I think it's probably the easiest switch (Conductor imports).

I work on Orca and we're shipping frequently.

Let us know if you have feedback! (MIT OSS)

Comment by mchusma 1 day ago

I switched from conductor to orca because conductor didn’t support mobile app working with local instances and didn’t have a good cli/mcp at the time.

Very happy I switched. I’m extremely productive on mobile. It defiiitely feels power usery but i am one so it works great.

My only gripe is sometimes it loses connections to workspaces in a way that is hard to recover BUT the meta conductor living on top can resolve it for me. Kudos for having it.

Comment by nwparker 1 day ago

If you make a GH issues for your connection problem we can also probably get to the bottom of it!

Comment by j1mc 1 day ago

appImage is not a great packaging format for Linux. Any chance you could ship a flatpak instead? You'd likely need to host your own flatpak remote, but it's not rocket surgery.

Thank you for your consideration and for your work.

Comment by umbra07 1 day ago

It is far, far easier to convert an AppImage into a Flatpak (or any other packaging form) than vice versa.

If a dev is only going to choose one, I'd much rather they ship an AppImage.

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Comment by d4rkp4ttern 1 day ago

No time to try other options but I’m betting on Rex from Superlogical -

https://www.superlogical.com/rex

Comment by markmark 11 hours ago

I'd already swapped to T3, at least it might survive the founders getting acquihired since it's open source.

Comment by t1ll 1 day ago

I'm one of the founders of https://podium.do. We created Podium because none of the other ADEs worked like what we wanted. I think it could be interesting for you to checkout as an alternative because there are similarities to Conductor, plus a few interesting additional features. We are pretty strong for complex tasks because we put an agent native issue tracker at the core of architecture which turned out as a super power in that case.

Comment by wslh 1 day ago

Does Podium support Gemini?

Comment by FriendlyMike 1 day ago

Free 3 month sub to any current Conductor user. We promise to never sell to Facebook, X or other weirdo billionaires. I started this company to get away from working at big tech and not to sell to it. Up to 10 cloud workspaces per person, works with all the things you need. https://hive.codes/signup

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Comment by davecyen 1 day ago

I use Paradev (https://paradev.com - previously Superset) and it's great. They posted a migration guide today https://docs.paradev.com/migrate-from-conductor

Comment by fumplethumb 1 day ago

https://ampcode.com/ is amazing! Surprised the community here does not discuss it more.

Comment by rramon 1 day ago

Could be a Laravel and PHP X bubble thing, former JS/TS only devs mostly seem to promote T3.

Comment by mickeyp 1 day ago

Give my dreamcoder.ai harness a whirl. Runs in your browser on all 3 platforms. Tiling window manager; generous use of keyboard shortcuts, so it's not just for mouse users.

Comment by doomspork 1 day ago

Comment by Darmani 16 hours ago

I'm the founder of the venture-backed startup behind Command Center, https://cc.dev . We've found that all the other tools in this space are better at shipping vibed slop than production code, and assume that you want to spend your time staring at a chat window as an AI works. Command Center instead focuses on the second 80% of software development, prioritizing effective human code understanding, refactoring and rapid feedback features to keep you in control.

Comment by pkilgore 1 day ago

I moved to Paseo. Open source and let's you drive from your phone.

Comment by fabioz 1 day ago

Check Beolis (https://beolis.com).

Disclaimer: I'm developing it.

Comment by gateauxd 1 day ago

Comment by harryck9 1 day ago

Paseo is great

Comment by feverishaaron 1 day ago

Agentastic is great for mac users. I'm hoping the project gets a boost with this acquistion.

Comment by bgnm2000 1 day ago

highly recommend https://www.scape.work - it's unlimited agents in parallel, and unlimited orchestrators in parallel.

Comment by hoakiet98 1 day ago

I'm obviously biased but Paradev, it imports your Conductor worktrees as is https://paradev.com

Comment by 217 1 day ago

tern or orca or bb or vanilla claude code desktop / codex desktop

Comment by 0xb0565e486 1 day ago

Claude or ChatGPT

Comment by jl35db 1 day ago

boxes.dev!

Comment by skorobogatko 1 day ago

buzzpot.app :)

Comment by fabianlindfors 1 day ago

getbb.app

Comment by priyadarshy 1 day ago

macro.land

Comment by sam_req2code 3 hours ago

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Comment by bqsile 1 day ago

I switched to T3 codes a few weeks ago after being a power user of Conductor and I understand why the product felt a bit stale now.

Comment by steve_adams_86 1 day ago

What do you get out of T3? What's the appeal?

Comment by Darmani 4 hours ago

Not who you asked, but since you're comparing: I'm the founder of Command Center (https://cc.dev). T3 and Conductor are mostly about running the agents. We put our effort into the part after, getting what they wrote to production quality: walkthroughs that let you read a big agent diff about 4x faster, and refactorings to clean it up.

Comment by stevenou 1 day ago

Extremely bummed about this. Having cloud webhooks + workspace/session API + isolated VMs has been a massive productivity boost for me.

Does anyone have suggestions for products that can match Conductor Cloud, not just Conductor Local?

Comment by ibrahima 1 day ago

We've been building https://www.superconductor.com/ since before Conductor had cloud (actually, technically before Conductor was released, so the naming is a funny coincidence). Our team's been working together for over a decade across multiple startups (and one prior exit) and we put pride into building an excellent multiplayer, multi-surface, mobile-friendly experience so teams can work together with agents anywhere on any project. Give us a look and let us know how it goes!

Comment by dregitsky 1 day ago

We built https://boxes.dev specifically for cloud dev / isolated VMs (disclosure, I'm one of the founders). Getting work off your laptop is such a productivity boost when you have parallel threads. Obviously there are a ton of products in this category (rest of the comments here have many examples) but we're 100% focused on the cloud experience

Comment by stevenou 1 day ago

Trying this out... based on Claude's assessment it's got the fullest support for my existing workflow requirements compared to some of the others ones suggested.

Comment by dregitsky 1 day ago

Awesome, thanks a ton for trying it! Definitely reach out of you hit any issues or have feedback, email is drew at boxes.dev

Comment by nwparker 1 day ago

Orca dev here! I'd suggest Orca

Why? We let you bring your own cloud (versus being locked in).

You can bring a local cloud, sandboxes, or whatever you'd like

We even launched community plugins this week for VM/sandboxes (our you can have your own internal plugin)

https://www.onorca.dev/plugins?kind=machines

Comment by hoakiet98 1 day ago

Paradev founder here, our cloud workspaces should cover most of that https://paradev.com

Comment by 217 1 day ago

I'd say tern or orca, some customization and a decent vps will get you 95%+ of the way there

Comment by boudra 1 day ago

give https://paseo.sh a go, self host it to get many of the same features and more

Comment by flessio 1 day ago

+1 - we've been very happy on Paseo.

We like the web + mobile app orientation (available without an app store!) along with the high degree of control.

Anyone moved between Paseo and T3? Curious to hear what motivated you in either direction.

Comment by TheGamerUncle 1 day ago

superset.sh is quite a good option that will mostly get you there.

Comment by dean_stratakos 1 day ago

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Comment by phildenhoff 1 day ago

Congratulations to the team - but it's a bitter ending. I wish, in these cases, the company could open source a version of their desktop software. But I'm sure the tech is part of what Meta is acquiring.

I started using Conductor in January this year and it was a great tool - Charlie and the team knocked it out of the park. I only migrated to Orca when I needed better multi-machine control, and remote control, but these tools are a dime-a-dozen now. I'm not sure that if I was hunting for a new tool today that I'd pick up Orca. Maybe Herdr? or Stencil's Tern?

All that to say - they built a great product with great UX. Looking forward to seeing what they build next at Meta!

Comment by green-frog-445 1 day ago

why use a 3rd party tool instead of just spinning up a VM in GCP and calling it a day? Would really appreciate your insight

Comment by phildenhoff 1 day ago

My needs (multi machine set up, one tool) do not work well with “one VM”. If I ran Claude code on one VM, I’d only have that one machines resources. I’d have to have a second session in another terminal tab which is… well that’s Herdr. And orca. They manage those.

Comment by markush_ 1 day ago

Judging by the number of alternatives that are promoted by their founders here there is clearly no moat in this

Comment by sharts 16 hours ago

and too much self promotion

Comment by BowBun 1 day ago

This morning my team was a bit grumpy about this. This afternoon we've already forked + reverse engineered the whole project, including Passport (our favorite feature)! LLMs truly are amazing, lol.

Comment by realcul 1 day ago

care to open source it ?

Comment by BowBun 15 hours ago

we will not, it violates their terms. I encourage someone to rewrite it from 0 and open-source it though.

Comment by forthwall 1 day ago

The economics of these harnesses I don't think lend to many winners, the model usage plans the big guys have at offer will always undercut the small players no matter how much they try to resell an openmodel for $20/mo. Congrats to the team though!

Comment by Destiner 1 day ago

I am pretty sure Conductor supported BYOAI since day 1. The monetization play was to charge on cloud boxes, not inference.

Comment by crabmusket 1 day ago

For anyone else who did a double take, this is different to Orkes Conductor which was the subject of a recent Jepsen analysis.

Comment by crystaln 1 day ago

Great exit in a crowded space.

I switched to Paseo long ago because of its full featured mobile app, local client server architecture, and open sourcedness. Conductor began to feel stale, pricey, and understandably but annoying for me moving toward enterprise.

Comment by gosen 1 day ago

Glad for the team, sad for the product

Comment by uvu 1 day ago

Personal Opinion. This is just friend of friend business.

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Comment by nickfmatthews 1 day ago

Is anybody else running into the problem trying to sign up for Conductor, where it says that new signups are closed and offers you no other route forward? There are some docs referencing the Meta acquisition and a focus on local since they're closing cloud, but no way to actually use the Mac app locally without signup.

It seems like it's got a lot of utility for my team and I, but jesus

Comment by jon-wood 1 day ago

Their announcement literally says that Conductor Local will be supported into 2027, which is 2 months away. Now is not the time to be jumping on board with it.

Comment by Darmani 6 hours ago

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Comment by Raed667 1 day ago

I'm not a Conductor user, but the shutdown timeline seems rather rushed no?

Comment by dgritsko 1 day ago

That's the consensus on the Discord server, people are not happy.

Comment by juanre 1 day ago

Shameless plug: I made https://aweb.ai, which does essentially the same but can also add chatgpt and claude.ai instances to the team, works for agents across many computers and organizations, lets you organize them in teams, gives your agents private or public ids (multi-register and federated), and is OSS.

Comment by dewey 1 day ago

I was just commenting yesterday (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50367546) how I really like Conductor except that it doesn't work so well if you want to work across multiple repositories.

I guess that's the kick I needed to dig into the alternatives.

Comment by Darmani 6 hours ago

At Command Center (https://cc.dev), we've just started working on cross repo support. (Can have agents run over a group of workspaces in different projects)

Our main selling point: we focus on features for iteration, code quality, and human understanding to get PRs to production quality faster.

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Comment by user- 1 day ago

I was a early user of conductor, even gave a lot of feedback through the inapp button (the team responded to me personally and quickly always which was nice, and my feature requests got into the app quickly). I've stopped using it a long time ago but at the time it was a game changer for me.

Its crazy how fast the tech field is moving

Comment by julesrms 1 day ago

Well, if any of the disgruntled people on this thread fancy moving to an agent with a similarly-themed name and vibe, Juggler (https://github.com/juggler-ai/juggler) is available.

No sign-up required - the angle I'm taking is that juggler is a client-server architecture, and if you want cloud VM sessions, you just spin up your own server and run a juggler server process on there. Its GUI is identical whether it's a local or remote session.

(I'd never actually heard of conductor, but interesting to see that people do want that kind of managed cloud backend server. I might think about the logistics of offering that)

And I promise to never sell-out to Meta[1].

[1] Nah, of course I would if they offered me a really huge amount of money.

Comment by leofree 1 day ago

Might be a dumb question but can you explain in a couple words the benefit VS a well organized claude code CLI that knows to spin sub agents?

Comment by 6thbit 1 day ago

I had the same question. I think this is in the space of being like the 'trillian' or 'matrix' of ai agents, using multi provider coding agent from a single interface plus some bells and whistles.

But I think within claude code and codex subagent support has improved a lot lately and it doesn't seem this would improve that much over that native support if you only use one provider.

Comment by adam-eclse 1 day ago

The benefit is not spinning up sub-agents, but spinning up parallel workstreams. They basically took 90% of the friction out of working with and using worktrees. I was using Linear a lot (and enjoying it!) for my issue tracking, but at some point I realized it's more productive to just create a new worktree in Conductor for any bug/feature and cut out the middleman.

Comment by leofree 1 day ago

hmm so working on different features let's say on the same git, in parallel, without causing issues? Is the improvement of this parallelization worth it on solo projects or it becomes only relevant on big projects with lots of PRs and such?

Comment by adam-eclse 1 day ago

It's always useful to have even if you don't need 8 worktrees with agents all going at the same time (I rarely have more than 2-3 active at a time). Typically there a tension between the 'fast way' (a big ol' slop branch bag of assorted changes) and the 'correct way' (carefully isolated branches and PRs) - with a smart implementation of worktrees like Conductor, the correct way becomes just as fast. That's basically the heart of good UX in my mind.

Comment by mgw 1 day ago

Congrats to the team! It's great to see acquisitions in this space.

I personally never thought Conductor was that great, so I built my own with https://podium.do.

What I was missing was a built-in task system so more complex tasks can be split up by the agents. And running agents on my own machines of course.

Comment by jahala 1 day ago

Site looks great, congrats - will have a peek - but I feel task handling is better done in the repo itself? (repo-as-the-harness thinking) especially for teams.

Comment by mgw 1 day ago

Thank you!

Interesting idea, but we find task data is too high throughput to put into git. I assume with the new crop of DVCSs that can handle much more volume this might change.

Comment by ayayronf 1 day ago

Congrats to the conductor team! The timeline to migrate off Conductor Cloud feels very aggressive. What tooling are other folks moving to?

Comment by creativeembassy 1 day ago

I switched to Paseo a few months ago. Fully open-source, I've had no issues with it. But no cloud provider option, so to speak. (I run an instance of Paseo in a Hetzner box, agents working full-time, haven't really had to do any maintenance on it...)

https://paseo.sh/

Comment by askedrelic 1 day ago

Orca is next for me to trial https://www.onorca.dev/

Herdr has been another YC favorite https://herdr.dev/

Comment by sbarre 1 day ago

FWIW I used Orca for a week and then went back to Herdr..

Orca has a lot of UI bugs, buttons that don't work, menus that don't disappear, etc.. To be fair they push updates quite regularly, but I think I will check back in once it's a bit more stable.

Comment by nwparker 1 day ago

Hey, if you have issues please let us know!

We test our product like crazy, so I'm quite surprised to hear this. But feel free to drop me a message, open a GH issue or otherwise.

We are OSS MIT and always open to feedback

Comment by pbjerkeseth 1 day ago

If you like taking bets on smaller oss & independent projects that have no interest in creating a vc backed business, I'm working (9 months+ now) on https://ouijit.com/

gh: https://github.com/ouijit/ouijit

It's a bit unique from a design standpoint, but the next release brings it a little more in line with the zeitgeist (but not too much).

Comment by ashiban 1 day ago

We're building Datadog Studio[0], for both building things, but also following them through to prod

[0] https://www.projectcodename.dev/access

Comment by mksadoughi 1 day ago

For what it's worth, I'm using plain Claude Code: one git worktree per session, the sessions messaging each other directly, and one coordinator session that assigns the work. To be honest, it fills the multi-agent gap pretty well. It's not as polished as Conductor, but given how much Claude Code itself has improved over the last few months, and where it's heading, I think it's a good alternative to just stick with.

Comment by fabianlindfors 1 day ago

I moved to getbb.app. Been really happy with it for the past few months. The plugin functionality is really cool.

Comment by dgritsko 1 day ago

T3 Code here, I've been a hardcore user of Conductor for a while but T3 is excellent.

Comment by hoakiet98 1 day ago

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Comment by BowBun 1 day ago

Gah this sucks! Conductor is my main development tool. Now I'm forced to look for alternatives. Why can't they open source it?

Comment by freedomben 1 day ago

Over the years I've gotten extremely conservative with adopting any new tooling into my workflow, for exactly reasons like this.

Comment by jerpint 1 day ago

If you’re looking for an open-source alternative, I’m the creator of woltspace [0], which is a way of coordinating your wolts (coding agents) by letting them talk to each other and giving them a lodge on your machine.

I built it for myself as a dev who loves tmux and vim and who was very unsatisfied with the typical agent orchestration experience. You should check it out! The biggest advantage is you bring your coding agents to woltspace, not the other way around.

[0] https://github.com/jerpint/woltspace

Comment by redanddead 1 day ago

Trusts suck

They ruin innovation top down and bottom up at the same time

Comment by paaloeye 1 day ago

With labs spending their fundings left and right and vibe-coding, it's absolutely irresponsible to adopt anything less than 18 months old.

Comment by trcf23 1 day ago

Not tried it yet but DeltaDB from ZED (and ZED editor more generally) could cover it for you and they are open source.

Comment by mfe7 1 day ago

I switched to paseo.sh several months ago. It's just as good if not better.

Comment by Philip-J-Fry 1 day ago

Western AI giants have hundreds of billions of dollars to make back in a world where China is releasing open source tooling and open weights models. How else does they make their money back other than finding _something_ proprietary to sell.

Comment by techmunky 1 day ago

respectfully, its a claude wrapper. with that said if you really can't live without it-- you have the binary, you know what to do.

Comment by lonexa 1 day ago

I created https://superintelligencehive.com/ because I wanted my own orchestrator - it is local and has most of the features you could want. And forever free.

Comment by SethSchilbe 1 day ago

Tried Conductor in the past but had migrated all of our teams remote development work to http://boxes.dev as it was much more intuitive and easier to manage parallel workstreams.

Would highly recommend it for anyone looking for an alternative with Conductor shutting down.

Comment by Strongbad536 1 day ago

I used conductor when it was first released for quite some time. Great product but i ultimately wanted to use my own networked devices to do work, so i moved to herdr and then ultimately to t3 code now.

Very happy to see the team get a happy ending/landing!

Comment by dbmikus 1 day ago

Are you using Tailscale for your network, or something else?

I've been working on a startup in the "private networks + VMs for agents" space, so I'm always trying to learn how people run their current setups.

Comment by mushufasa 1 day ago

I first thought it was about this Conductor: https://github.com/netflix/conductor

Comment by babelfish 1 day ago

Congrats to the team, but bummed out that I'm losing my favorite IDE!

Comment by maherbeg 1 day ago

Congrats to the team! This is a great acquire for meta to super speed their coding agent rival. It's very exciting to now have another tier 1 major player in the space.

Comment by 217 1 day ago

I will miss it dearly.

Comment by torginus 1 day ago

I dont wanna hate on this particular project, and I fully assume the possibility of PEBKAC, but I feel like my golden era of AI development was sometime during when I had a chat window in VS Code, and asked AI to make edits.

Since then my company has 2 subsequent AI transformations, during the first we went fully agentic, and agents started pushing in 10k LOC PRs after churning away at the problem for hours.

Even then I felt a profound loss of control, but now we are trying to take the next step, and even automate more stuff, and remove other bottlenecks, like CI/CD or VCS or ticketing, to cope with pushing an order of magnitude more code even than previously.

So I'm feeling the exponentials, also the profound loss of control, and not having the faintest idea of what's going on. Now I understand how people get AI psychosis.

As for the results, they are.... not there's a lot of things going on and I suspect most of said complexity is incidental.

Comment by pranav7 1 day ago

Many congratulations! What a great outcome for the team

Comment by motatoes 1 day ago

For anyone looking for a slack-native conductor check out opencomputer.dev

disclosure: I am one of the founders

Comment by gejose 1 day ago

Your website focuses quite a bit on speed. Can you talk about _how_ it achieves this (besides potentially running on a server that's closer to where the models are hosted?)

Comment by iamunr 1 day ago

Literally just went to go "all in" on conductor yesterday, and buy into their cloud setup and hope the company keeps going.

And today we're doing a refund + moving the org to t3.codes instead.

Boo Meta. Boooooooo.

Comment by jerpint 1 day ago

If you’re interested in self hosting your own, I’m the creator of woltspace [0], it’s a fully open-source way of managing your team of coding agents (wolts). You give the wolts a lodge on your own infra. They’re always on, always reachable, and fun beavers and racoons that evolve over time. Happy to chat about it! It’s by far my favourite workflow as a dev who loves tmux and being in a terminal

[0] https://github.com/jerpint/woltspace

Comment by pjmlp 1 day ago

It is kind of interesting on how only the buyer gets booed.

Comment by dregitsky 1 day ago

(disclosure: I'm a founder of yet another T3/Conductor competitor, https://boxes.dev)

You might want to do a quick eval of all the products in the space vs your org's needs! There are a lot of options now, and T3 isn't really a drop-in replacement for Conductor if you wanted the cloud setup.

Specifically T3's great for local, but for cloud they don't host anything - you just run their server on your own machine / VM. Which works ok, esp if you prefer full self-hosted, but then parallel agents still share a machine and need worktrees for isolation. Conductor Cloud actually eliminated worktrees by giving each workspace its own VM with a dev environment preloaded - which is the same approach we (and a few others) are taking.

Comment by chrisvalleybay 1 day ago

Also you're not mentioning that Boxes is not open-source, where as T3 is. They just had to leave Conductor essentially because it was an acquihire of a closed source offering. I think if we're to stay safe in an environment that's moving this fast: we do need the code so that we can continue using it in case of these M&A's.

Also - if you are a developer/SWE this 'keep your laptop closed' thing with these control planes is mostly hype. I'd place my bets on something like Rex (https://www.superlogical.com/) instead.

Comment by paaloeye 1 day ago

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Comment by sgallant 1 day ago

Theo's awesome!

Comment by Handy-Man 1 day ago

He is just annoying, otherwise he is fine.

Comment by frde_me 1 day ago

As annoying as he can be, t3 code really speaks for itself, especially with the later updates

Comment by qsfp28 1 day ago

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Comment by dbbk 1 day ago

He's a narcissist

Comment by rolymath 1 day ago

Theo is the reason I signed in to youtube on my living room TV so I can block his channel.

Comment by paaloeye 7 hours ago

Ultimate testimony to his "craft"

Comment by jahala 1 day ago

Conductor is awesome. Meta sucks donkey balls, and I refuse to use their products.

I'll prolly have claude reverse engineer conductor over the next month so the show can go on ...

Comment by robertn702 1 day ago

There’s no need to. There are so many alternatives with almost the same feature set like superset.sh and orca.dev.

Comment by roopakv 1 day ago

Why not try one of the existing services before you spend time maintaining something yourself? For the past two months, I've been using boxes.dev

95% of all my sessions are on boxes. Initially, the draw was just a remote box that I could control on mobile, but some of the features they have added recently, like coordinating child sessions, are wildly good.

I know there are new startups in this space every day, so what tipped things for me was that the team is so responsive and ships features in the matter of hours.

Comment by stryakr 1 day ago

do you work at boxes.dev

Comment by roopakv 1 day ago

Nope, completely different space and zero affiliation. Which either means it's really that good, or that I need to start charging consulting fees.

Comment by jahala 1 day ago

I'll tinker with this on the side. To see "how hard can it be anyhow" and to maybe end up with something better long term.

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Edit:

Surprise, surprise - I'm launching a new open source project: "Conducted" (not affiliated with, or to be confused with any similar brands) Conducted is MIT license, and will remain open source until hell has frozen over.

Looking for contributors ;) .. Feel free to give it a star, throw some agents in its direction.

https://github.com/jahala/conducted

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Comment by mickeyp 1 day ago

Save tokens and spend them on building cool stuff instead. If you're open to it, give my dreamcoder.ai harness a whirl.

Comment by mikigraf 1 day ago

Been using superset for some time, but they dont have the cloud offering yet..

Comment by hoakiet98 1 day ago

We have cloud now! also renamed to Paradev https://paradev.com

Comment by fabianlindfors 1 day ago

I migrated off Conductor to getbb.app a while ago and can highly recommend it.

For cloud agents I just built plugins in bb for boat.dev and smolmachines.com. Works like a charm.

Comment by feverishaaron 1 day ago

Agentastic is already pretty close in concept. Why not help improve it?

Comment by slopinthebag 1 day ago

literally no need when there are about 10,000 clones all doing the exact same thing, practically down to the UI and website

Comment by habosa 1 day ago

The changelog is truly hilarious:

> Conductor Cloud goes read-only on November 13 and shuts down on November 20.

3 sentences later

> Add your own completion sounds in Settings → General. Pick a sound file, name it, and choose it like any other sound.

If you're shutting down in *9 days* I really don't care that you added custom sound effects.

Comment by HumblyTossed 1 day ago

Hope the money is worth selling your soul to Meta. Yuk.

Comment by mattmaroon 1 day ago

The number of comments in here saying “founder of xyz here, if you’re looking for a replacement we make a similar product” is illustrative.

Comment by pavlov 1 day ago

Most people who need this product probably should just vibe code their own.

At least that's what I did.

Comment by g_host56 1 day ago

just when I was starting to really like conductor. It's a really good app / idea for working with agents. The strongest workflow I've used. Ig I'll move to herd now.

nice to get paid by meta, but cmmon read the room.

Comment by gdulli 1 day ago

Everything you add to your tech stack is a liability. Period. I've always leaned minimalist.

Comment by beshard 1 day ago

woahhhh congrats to the conductor team! If folks are looking for cloud agents/replacement, can't recommend boxes.dev enough, they've got phenomenal support and ship INCREDIBLY fast.

Comment by vadepaysa 1 day ago

well, conductor was so great that after using it for a few weeks, I completely stopped fearing a lock-in. I just use the official cli + desktop apps now. tmux + a bit of custom scripting works wonders.

Comment by sharts 16 hours ago

Why do all of these shamelessly want customer agents in their cloud and build everything on electron?

Pretty much all of these are variations of the same AI ingested slop xeroxing itself repeatedly.

The only difference between all of them seems to some UI, integrations, or different steps to do the same thing

Comment by wolfi1 1 day ago

ok, as a fan of public transfer I just asked myself, how a conductor could be useful to Meta

Comment by gepeake 1 day ago

Glad I started migrating all my projects to Paseo yesterday!

Comment by calmworm 1 day ago

Dang… I didn’t even get a chance to try it.

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Comment by roskoes 1 day ago

"We launched Conductor a lifetime ago, in the distant past of July 2025. " Dear god the sheer smugness. This bubble can't burst soon enough.

Comment by imagetic 1 day ago

The end.

Comment by fnoef 1 day ago

every time a new tool appears, everyone around me is like "you should try you should try it". but i am here, stuck with my vim and tmux. and im glad i did. most of the new shiny things get enshittifed or acquired by shady corporations. long live vim+tmux

Comment by inshard 1 day ago

Doesn’t Claude desktop do all of this and more. Like, is this IP layer super commoditized?

Comment by stevage 1 day ago

> If you liked Conductor, you’re gonna love what’s coming.

...

> Friday, Nov 20

> Conductor Cloud shuts down

> We begin deleting Conductor Cloud user data. Please export your data before this date.

Oh yeah, gonna love that!

Comment by cute_boi 1 day ago

T3 code is much better than conductor.

I will avoid Meta and Google as much as possible.

Comment by dominotw 1 day ago

i used tmux with my own worlkflow to fork and merge sessions and windows for ai coding. Am i missing out on anything no using these.

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Comment by oxfordmale 1 day ago

Condoleances

Comment by rsamtravis 1 day ago

FUCK

Comment by szymeo 1 day ago

im with you. Try free, open-source drop in replacement https://github.com/bestboyhq/malini

Comment by paaloeye 1 day ago

I'm so glad I haven't even heard of them

Comment by qmr 1 day ago

"Our incredible journey"

Comment by akeel_mohamed 1 day ago

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Comment by SethSchilbe 1 day ago

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Comment by szymeo 1 day ago

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Comment by cantalopes 1 day ago

Why does their page sound like donald trump

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Comment by dayone1 1 day ago

why sellout your company and your customers and community?

Comment by efficax 1 day ago

that's the whole point of founding a VC backed company

Comment by 0c3ca83 1 day ago

For money.

Comment by usern20260720 1 day ago

Like Brian Acton did with the victims he allured to his platform back in the days. Sold them for 20 billion meta coins

Comment by williamdclt 1 day ago

(As someone who isn't particularly happy about this news)

> why sellout your company and your customers and community?

Why not? Do you think this is a heart project, that the founders have a personal passion for agent orchestration somehow? They're not curing cancer or supporting orphans, most companies are created to make money, that's how our economic system works (for better or worse, but I'm not going to blame individuals or be surprised about it).

"community"... Come on. There's customers, there's no community here.

Comment by logotype 1 day ago

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Comment by dang 1 day ago

Personal attacks aren't allowed here, regardless of who you're attacking. We've had to ask you this before, and even banned you in the past before agreeing to unban you. Seriously not cool.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Comment by FriendlyMike 1 day ago

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Comment by FriendlyMike 1 day ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pghD8n_Prw4 adding Conductor import tonight! We are cloud hosted but I think I can migrate y'alls git state quickly

Comment by jmdelatorre 1 day ago

rooting for you!

Comment by platevoltage 1 day ago

I'm routing for you.

Comment by FriendlyMike 1 day ago

Thank you, we are pre seed and raising. Our team is ex Airbnb where we built agent harness for the last 2 years. We have a sustainable model - 20 a month gets you 10 remote concurrent machines and the full platform tool chain. You can use our ui, mcp through Claude or codex or straight up run codex and Claude server in our VMs. Every sub will be profit for us and means we don’t need to sell the company when it gets larger

Comment by ellievic221 1 day ago

thank you for this!

Comment by burger_moon 1 day ago

Appropriate user name too.

Comment by doublerabbit 1 day ago

> The whole team is around to help answer any questions

Why did you sell out?

Comment by adam-eclse 1 day ago

Realistically for them, coding harnesses are an extremely competitive landscape, and they have to live in constant fear that Anthropic/OpenAI etc will rugpull them and force these harnesses to go through API billing (effectively killing it as an option for I would guess the majority of their users). That nearly happened earlier this year when Anthropic intimated they were going to do this.

The other reality is, there are now good free alternatives to Conductor (I haven't tried them so we will see) - it does suck if you feel very tied to your existing workflow, but I also think about it from the level of 'these people gave me something for free that helped me a lot, and I want things to work out well for them'.

Comment by signatoremo 1 day ago

Why do you think they sell out? What is it about the deal that you aren’t happy about?

Users chose them knowing full well the risks.

Build a product with paid customers, then you can choose not to sell out.

Comment by doublerabbit 1 day ago

Users did not know full well the risks. You never do.

And thanks for the projection. I have a product with paid customers and I refuse to sell out. The project sinks with me.

Comment by 2001zhaozhao 1 day ago

$

Comment by xenospn 1 day ago

Are you asking people why they like money? like, a lot of money?