Show HN: Run full iOS 16.5 firmware on Android Devices

Posted by aghuang 4 hours ago

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Comment by aghuang 3 hours ago

I found the website to be quite nauseating to look at, so I decided to use the GitHub link instead.

But it's quite impressive that it works on QEMU, POCO X5 Pro 5G and some Xiaomi devices too.

Website is here: https://hackios-web.vercel.app/en

Source Code: https://github.com/oosexgang/hackios-xnu-kernel

Comment by Wowfunhappy 41 minutes ago

Is this not your work? If it's not yours, you should email the mods (footer contact link) so they can remove Show HN from the title. This is a great submission, just not a Show HN.

Comment by semolino 3 hours ago

Are those tubal ligation scars on the mascot?

Comment by dpacmittal 3 hours ago

I'm surprised Camera works. Even postmarketOS has difficulty with camera on most devices.

Comment by simlevesque 3 hours ago

Thank you.

Comment by drnick1 2 hours ago

It's interesting that this can be done, but why would anyone want to run iOS on Android devices? A more desirable outcome would be running a free Android distro like Graphene on Apple hardware. Or indeed just liberating phones controlled by Google by hacking the bootloader and replacing the OS.

Comment by ChrisMarshallNY 1 hour ago

For that warm feeling you get, when Apple turns their legal lasers on you.

Comment by Wowfunhappy 46 minutes ago

One thing that occurs to me is this project is a way to get a fully jailbroken iOS. You can tweak the kernel and go nuts. Can't do that on an iPhone.

Comment by bijowo1676 2 hours ago

to finally have a Blue iMessage bubble in your group texts

Comment by gruez 2 hours ago

That likely doesn't work because they require device attestation to access imessage. It's what killed beeper mini too.

Comment by dmcrespo 1 hour ago

It seems a bit crazy to me, plus now it opens the door to many iPhone copies... we'll have to be very careful

Comment by zahirbmirza 30 minutes ago

There was a time that I would have liked iOS to run on other hardware. These days, it is so clunkly, that the the desire is not there.

Comment by sanid 3 hours ago

This is going to be fun. There are already replica phones for the flagship phones that are running a shitty android version that has been customized to look like iOS. People need to tripple check now when buying older used iPhone models.

Comment by gruez 3 hours ago

>Does not work (yet):

>App Store content and Apple ID sign-in (no Secure Enclave; FairPlay daemon exits)

That seems like a huge roadblock, even if were able to resolve all the driver/OS issues.

Comment by mshish 3 hours ago

I imagine official support for 3rd party app stores might open up some options for easily installing apps. However, that might require the store adding support for this type of iOS install or a newer version of iOS with 3rd party app store support.

Comment by gruez 2 hours ago

>I imagine official support for 3rd party app stores might open up some options for easily installing apps

Given you own the OS, that's not an issue. You can make it pre-jailbroken and load whatever third party app store if you want. The bigger issue is that no app store = no "normie" apps like uber or google maps. I suspect most of the stock apps won't work either because they enforce device attestation on the backend endpoints, so it'll be miserable to use. Note in the maps screenshot, there's nothing behind the modal. It's just blank, suggesting it can't load the map tiles. You'd be better off using an android skinned as ios (possibly vibedcoded) than using this mess.

Comment by boston_clone 2 hours ago

also,

>Does not work (yet)

>- Cellular, Bluetooth

>- Charging under our kernel (the phone only discharges)

Comment by pmkary 3 hours ago

Someone finally did this, wow! 2026 just keeps getting more crazy.

Comment by runjake 52 minutes ago

Important to note that a large percentage of the current versions of A and B-tier iOS apps won't run on an iOS this old.

But this is still a big step for research purposes.

Comment by aziaziazi 42 minutes ago

Happy user of 15.8.8 (05/2026) here. Confirm the lack of many apps but still enough for some users: - maps, google maps, osm clients... - whatsapp, discord, telegram... - bank, raintoday, spotify... - all iOS default apps!

Comment by nickorlow 50 minutes ago

I wonder how they landed on 16.5

Comment by torben-friis 3 hours ago

I wonder, why 16.5? (That would be 2023's versión).

Not to detract from how awesome this is, just curious.

Comment by MBCook 3 hours ago

They crank up security every release. Perhaps ones after that were somehow drastically harder?

Comment by nullpoint420 3 hours ago

I'm doing the same thing with my Oneplus 6T, I have Claude piloting my phone over adb booting new candidate kernels and checking the results

What a time to be alive!

Comment by therepanic 59 minutes ago

I suppose Anthropic has relaxed its safety checks to such an extent that Claude now agrees to port iOS to Android phones?

Comment by Geof25 47 minutes ago

ISA - iOS subsystem for Android

Comment by nickorlow 43 minutes ago

You mean the Android subsystem for iOS?

Comment by 1f60c 2 hours ago

There is one, uh, minor drawback:

  > Does not work (yet)
  >
  > Charging under our kernel (the phone only discharges)

Comment by xandrius 2 hours ago

Single use OS

Comment by matneyx 2 hours ago

The burningest of burners

Comment by ttul 2 hours ago

Pack it up and go home, everyone. The alpha-release doesn't chart. Time to throw in the towel. /s

Comment by jgbuddy 3 hours ago

Next; IOS will be decompiled and open source

Comment by xp84 2 hours ago

I hope that continued advancements in AI make it impossible for outfits like Apple to maintain closed systems that lock the device owner out of having any control over their own hardware. We're obviously not there yet -- I'm sure 1000 things won't work on a device with this running, but it's going to be a game of cat and mouse, and mouse is moving a lot faster than cat can now.

Comment by mschuster91 2 hours ago

> I hope that continued advancements in AI make it impossible for outfits like Apple to maintain closed systems that lock the device owner out of having any control over their own hardware.

Formally verified bootloaders and Secure Boot will make this all but impossible without hardware mods that do voltage glitching. It took 8 years for the checkm8 and usbliter8 exploits to be found, and I think that especially Apple has invested so much money, time and resources into securing their boot chain that the "best" thing we can hope for is a tethered jailbreak allowing a boot into another kernel.

Comment by compiler-guy 2 hours ago

Decompiled and easily available if you know where to look? Sure. Seems likely.

But "Open Source" is a description of the licensing terms, and it ain't gonna be that. Apple will sue hosters into oblivion. It will only be available on pirate sites.

Comment by tamimio 1 hour ago

Should be called phockintosh! I don’t see a use case for it but cool concept

Comment by xchip 1 hour ago

The guy who did it is a genius

Comment by jrmg 1 hour ago

It has an, uh, interesting funding model: “$HACKIOS ON BNB CHAIN The project has its own community token, live on flap.sh. Each trade carries a 1% fee that supports the team and funds development.”

Comment by bigwheels 3 hours ago

Why do these demonstrations all stop at iOS 16? What changed with iOS 17?

Comment by LoganDark 1 hour ago

Secure Page Table Monitor and Trusted Execution Monitor

Comment by dj_io 3 hours ago

Great work. This is neat kind of like age old there used to be hackintosh for macs. Now for ios. With this do you have access to app store. I think there is a unique identifier that android will lack for it to work.

Comment by hollowonepl 3 hours ago

Wow, do I smell the opportunity to have IOS analogy to Graphene OS built on top of such concept?

Comment by gruez 3 hours ago

No, because iPhones still have locked bootloader, and on an Android phone this Frankenstein of an OS is likely to have worse security than just grapheneos.

Comment by jgbuddy 3 hours ago

amazing, but who is OO SEX GANG

Comment by freedomben 3 hours ago

my guess is a lot of Java people who refuse to get on the functional train

Comment by saagarjha 3 hours ago

Hmm. Maybe small iPhone might be easier to revive than we thought!

Comment by westurner 3 hours ago

Does this make it possible to quality control iOS apps without MacOS runners with xcodebuild in CI like GitHub Actions?

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Comment by ttul 2 hours ago

From the site:

Q: Do the iServices like iCloud, App Store, etc work? A: No, at least not yet. They possibly require something iOS refers to as the “Legacy FairPlay Key Descrambler” AES (hardware) command.

Extremely subtle hint. Well played.

Comment by Velocifyer 2 hours ago

Can you make a GSI to run on any Android Phone?

Comment by croes 1 hour ago

I wonder how many if these AI projects have malware?

Comment by dmcrespo 1 hour ago

That's exactly what I was analyzing. They go viral very quickly, and there's no way to verify if they contain viruses or steal information.

Comment by embedding-shape 3 hours ago

What, no, why?! Joking but kind of also not, Apple is terrible at software, amazing at hardware, what the people (me) want is the opposite, Android running on Apple hardware :)

Comment by cosmic_cheese 2 hours ago

Opinions vary quite a bit on that. I imagine the appeal of this is similar to that of hackintoshing: Apple software with the diversity of generic hardware.

Personally speaking as someone who's had to use both platforms in varying capacities in the past decade I do not find myself fond of Android, particularly modern Android. When I booted up an old Android 9 device a few months back I was struck with how much more appeal that version held compared to its contemporary counterpart.

Comment by wiseowise 34 minutes ago

> Apple is terrible at software

You can’t write something like that and then follow up with

> what the people (me) want is the opposite, Android running on Apple hardware :)

Comment by TheSkyHasEyes 3 hours ago

Not with a locked bootloader, not yet anyway.

Comment by simlevesque 3 hours ago

Blue bubbles.

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Comment by diimdeep 2 hours ago

Hardware is so powerful, that soon we will be able to run anything using anything, if you have access to whatever you need to run, and access is lacking only if it is streaming content from cloud or hardware encrypted.

Comment by ost-ing 1 hour ago

Wow

Comment by zarmin 2 hours ago

Amazing. On par with cutting off my leg before playing soccer.

Comment by sheepscreek 3 hours ago

Madness. I love it.

Comment by Grombobulous 3 hours ago

My “AI is ending the world” feelings are definitely going in another direction in the past few weeks with the reverse engineering, jailbreaking, and porting scene.

Microsoft, Google, Oracle, etc, just invested all their money into a technology that will make their software worthless. As Ronald McDonald once said, I’m lovin’ it.

Comment by add-sub-mul-div 3 hours ago

Was your prior feeling about AI based on the sum total of its negative externalities for society, or its not having produced enough gimmick software projects?

Comment by Grombobulous 2 hours ago

My comment as a whole is not meant to be taken this seriously.

Comment by anthk 3 hours ago

If you think about it, home users will get free MIT licensed clones for Adobe/Autodesk/Solidworks and Microsoft. The companies will just get trained people in their homes for almost free and they will happily pay for support for Adobe/MS et all.

- Optimized and ultra-hardened Office for macros and features? Pay.

- CUDA optimized PS -with inline assembly maybe even from Rust- and more, 24/7 support with a huge Adobe asset pack to start with? Pay.

Comment by nullpoint420 1 hour ago

Bold of you to assume we'll still be using Office and Adobe in a few years. What happens when all the MIT solutions here are just a MCP?

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Comment by LetsGetTechnicl 48 minutes ago

I'm getting exhausted from all these AI vibe coded projects. Like this is cool, sure, but it's less cool than if someone had figured out how to do it themselves instead of having Claude do it. It's like chasing the dragon but for coding projects.

Comment by dudisubekti 29 minutes ago

You are free to become "more cool" yourself

Comment by esseph 31 minutes ago

Different goals and motivations.

You chase the dragon by figuring out the problems over potentially a long period of time.

They are figuring out the problems and releasing various levels of POCs in a fraction of the time. It may not all be correct, but with how quick it is, there is plenty of time for refactoring if necessary.

Comment by bigyabai 35 minutes ago

> it's less cool than if someone had figured out how to do it themselves

Those people had 4 years to reverse-engineer iOS 16 on their own terms. I don't think there was any overwhelming technical motivation to spend time on a project like this.

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