Ask HN: How can you retrain in a field requiring expensive equipment?
Posted by masterchief166 22 hours ago
Suppose you come up with an invention involving a highly specialized, equipment-intensive field you’re unfamiliar with, such as plasma processing or high-temperature metallurgy. You’ve already consulted experts who agree the idea is plausible, but haven’t found anyone with the relevant expertise willing to help develop a PoC. How could you acquire the necessary hands-on skills to test the invention yourself?
I’ve considered switching jobs, postdocs, master’s programs, a second PhD, and shared research facilities. However, jobs and postdocs may require existing expertise, master’s programs may offer insufficient hands-on training, and independent equipment access can be prohibitively expensive (and even then, access alone may not provide the necessary training).
Are there any other realistic ways to retrain in experimental fields that require specialized equipment and can’t be learned at home?
Comments
Comment by PaulHoule 18 hours ago
About ten years later I got offered (but didn't take) a postdoc at one of the most prestigious centers for the semantic web on the strength of a good, if popular, talk and a single conversation and I wasn't even looking.
That is, if you find the right personal connection you can get a postdoc without having to have the right formal qualifications or run the gauntlet of a selection process. If your viewpoint is a stable and safe academic career you might be just setting yourself for exploitation but if you have a passion for something and are looking for a fulcrum with which you can move you world that might be your path.
[1] ... good timing may be the royal road to academic careers
Comment by oliculipolicula 3 hours ago
Ime the walls are, not absent, but much lower at both ends of the prestige spectrum-- and perhaps that's a reason the timing is more under their control [cue tangential thoughts "petty bourgeoisie of specialised skills", "an ideally free market of academic status" etc]
If that is true, one should see more scandals at both ends (some anecdata ..)
If there's a community college/HYPMS feeder HS teacher nearby with access to vapour deposition equipment.. OP needs to hit it
Comment by lrvick 22 hours ago
Comment by lp92 21 hours ago
Also, building subscale POCs could be a good option depending on your idea and help cut down costs significantly, especially if you can use or modify COTS parts to make it work for the POC.
For example, when Rocket Labs was starting out they salvaged components from junk yards and so on to keep costs down like paying $5 for a used valve and refurbishing it rather than pay $100 for a new one (Peter has talked about this in various interviews).
Comment by red_candle_wax 19 hours ago
Otherwise it'll be tough. I've wanted some fancy niche Rhodes and Schwartz products in the past, but I had to come to the realization that it's probably not accessible to me.
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Comment by wltyn 17 hours ago
Comment by ActorNightly 22 hours ago
Once you have reviews and other people say its plausible, you can go present to VCs and acquire the funding.
Comment by brudgers 17 hours ago
If you can't buy, build.
It will probably be very very hard.
Most everything is.
You can make plasma with a grape in a micowave.
You can get high temperatures for metallurgy with a hacked furnace.
Sure you might not get great results.
Sure there's a good chance you will fail.
If those possibilities put you off, it's just an idea.
Shopping and grad school are forms of procrastination.
Good luck.
Comment by AnimalMuppet 15 hours ago
You'd be surprised at what specialized equipment some people have. There are individuals who have professional equipment in their garages. There are small shops that have big-shop equipment - not all of it, but certain ones.
The problem is, if it's an individual, you have to know them, or someone who knows them. For a small shop, they may not have much of a web page, and if they do, it may not say all that they can do.
I would google for what you need in your city or state. I would also go to Reddit or Facebook, and find groups about your area, and ask who in the area can do what you need.
You're still going to need money to pay them, though. As lp92 said, VC funding may be part of the answer for you.