I told people I'm a convicted felon after 20 years of hiding it

Posted by buf 20 hours ago

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Hi there.

I was engineer number 3 at Eventbrite and founding engineer at Reforge. I've created a dozen or so startups myself and have worked in many others, like Instacart. All this time, no one knew that I was a convicted felon.

It wasn't exactly a topic that came up, but it was certainly something that I never brought up. When you're a convicted felon, people look at you as if you are tainted.

I was unable to rent apartments in San Francisco. I was unable to get a job directly after being released from prison. It's funny because when you owe the state $17,000 in restitution and you can't get a job, people become extremely desperate. And that desperation can easily put you right back into prison.

So I went from homeless person at age 19 to 7-figures about 10 years later. I retired at age 38.

What I'm doing now is writing an autobiography. The main theme of it is hope.

And I want to make sure that people know about it. They don't necessarily have to be interested in it, but if people know about what it's like sleeping in a car believing that one day you will travel the world and then actually doing it, then I think I've accomplished my task in writing this book.

If you're interested, please let me know.

Comments

Comment by serf 17 hours ago

the fact that you're quick to tell me you're a pardoned felon but not why gives me a creepy feeling, and I say that with a lot of felon friends and family..

probably not the detail to omit to try to hook a readership..

technical aside : on low bandwidth connections your site acts really inconsistent and weird; it appears to be downloading those on-hover sound files.

Comment by ChrisMarshallNY 15 hours ago

It may be a bit of a "hook." He mentions that he explains it in the book, and provides the first chapter. It's probably in there.

I was a nasty felon, but as a juvenile (13). I got clean at 18, so my adult record is unblemished; but nowadays, I would probably be tried as an adult.

No, I'm not not gonna mention why, here. It's just a distraction.

Comment by wombat-man 15 hours ago

Unfortunately, it would actually probably matter a lot if you can afford a good attorney.

Glad to see you're doing well now.

Comment by ChrisMarshallNY 15 hours ago

It pretty much bankrupted my parents.

I was a bad, bad, boi...

Comment by selectodude 16 hours ago

https://sos.ok.gov/documents/Pardons/204490.pdf

That’s his pardon. That’s about all we got though, the record was expunged.

Comment by netsharc 15 hours ago

When I saw "pardoned" on his site I thought "I'll wager January 6 and a MAGA pardon".

But this says 2013 so my guess doesn't line up.

Comment by bko 14 hours ago

At 18 he hit his father in the head with a baseball bat. Not sure if he killed him.

That's all the info in the first chapter of his book. It's kind of gross gleeful description of the act. Don't think the book is for me.

In the comment he says he was homeless at 19 so at most he got less than 2 years prison.

Comment by aftbit 14 hours ago

It is not hard to figure out at all. The first chapter of the book is linked on his site.

https://buford.bg/books/buford-versus-oklahoma-1

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Comment by WarOnPrivacy 15 hours ago

    I was unable to rent apartments in San Francisco. 
    I was unable to get a job directly after being released from prison. 
    It's funny because when you owe the state $17,000 in restitution and
    you can't get a job, people become extremely desperate. 
    And that desperation can easily put you right back into prison.
It is my experience that anti-human outcomes follow a perversion of focus - when intent shifts from actually safeguarding society (thru meaningful redemption), toward destructive (zero tolerance) or exploitive ends (credit, crim reports).

I suggest that serially denying paid-for redemption (fines, incarceration) forever (never ending punishment delivered via criminal records) is deeply evil.

Comment by bko 13 hours ago

There's two ways arresting people safeguards society. You mentioned meaningful redemption. The other is removing the criminal from the general public which prevents them from harming others. Time takes care of a lot as it's overwhelmingly < 50 year olds that commit violent crime.

Comment by cucumber3732842 18 minutes ago

You forgot the other part which is most important to the government that runs the system.

By fining the crap out of these people and putting them on the treadmill of poverty we intentionally economically marginalize them so they with near certainty can't amass the wealth or power needed to threaten the system. Sure, you could go all in on a life of crime, become a drug kingpin, whatever, but in doing so you've also given the state an easy button to come after you if you get uppity. It's intentional. The system does not want these people to go on to be wealthy and powerful decades later. The absolute last thing the system wants is one of these guys going on to run some regional business empire or whatever and going all in on some political candidate that's gonna screw the jailer's union or apply more transparency to the courts or whatever so the system intentionally saddles them with this debt burden when they're rebuilding their lives.

Comment by wmchen 17 hours ago

Thank you for sharing this. I would be excited to read your autobiography.

I find stories like yours inspiring, and reassuring in a way. I'm increasingly worried about this trend toward being tough on crime in response to growing public disorder, increasing maximum sentences, and generally taking a no-holds-barred approach because good society has been wronged.

I've been a victim myself, from petty theft to assault when I intervened to stop a hate crime, by people out on bail with long court records. After being assaulted I really did start to question my beliefs on this. But I still very much genuinely believe that people can change and should be given a second chance, even though some won't take it seriously, and for others it might take a very long time.

I've met quite a few people with criminal records, or records as youth offenders, who genuinely did become better people over time. A former classmate of mine used to deal cocaine and is now a personal trainer with a wonderful personality and sense of morality. Another used to be a lookout for a stash house and has similarly moved on from that life.

I guess that's what I find so reassuring about stories like yours. I've seen people change and move on from what was probably the worst chapter of their lives, and become people I'm genuinely glad to know. I worry that in our societal desire to be tougher on crime, we're becoming less willing to give people that chance. And I think stories like yours are a good reminder of why we shouldn't lose sight of it.

Comment by juujian 16 hours ago

People can change when you have a justice system that is aimed at reforming offenders rather than simply locking them away or punishing them. America's justice system is the opposite of that, socializing even petty criminals that incidentally land in the system into doing more crime. That's why America has so many more people locked up compared to other countries, which is significantly more expensive in the long run, too...

Comment by Muromec 16 hours ago

>What I'm doing now is writing an autobiography. The main theme of it is hope.

Hope to work hard and win the lottery ticket when the game is stacked against you? What hope?

I'm happy for your personally, but it doesn't sound like a message of hope.

Comment by salesthrowaway3 15 hours ago

Reminds me a bit of the actors that tell you they finally broke it big because they didn't quit, or that they made it right before they ran out of money.

That's great and a nice story, but it doesn't take into account the many more that really did run out of money and got into a real tough situation, or didnt quit and just kept trying til their time was over.

Comment by pavel_lishin 16 hours ago

Minor feedback: please don't have your site make noises. It's distracting.

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Comment by danso 17 hours ago

I read the first chapter of your autobiography, looking forward to reading the rest. For the current audience reading this, do you mind spoiling/summarizing how you got into software engineering? Had you dabbled in it before your conviction, and did you study it while serving your prison sentence?

Comment by ChrisMarshallNY 16 hours ago

Thanks for sharing this!

I tend to hang with a number of folks with similar stories (I've been a Recovering drug addict for 46 years, and only mention it now, occasionally, because I'm not looking for a job -and it's usually not relevant to HN discussions).

Comment by hmokiguess 15 hours ago

Mixed feelings about it, though appreciate you sharing. Retired at 38 also sounds way too young, not as in "good job dude" but as in you have so much life ahead of you.

Comment by Daviey 15 hours ago

Why do you assume that retirement = life over? If anything, now he has the opportunity to enjoy life on his terms.

Comment by hmokiguess 15 hours ago

I guess maybe it's just how I read that word, dictionary says "having finished one's active working life."

I struggle to relate to that for some reason, for me work brings a bit of meaning to life and it's not just about paying the bills.

We are also social creatures, working is a good way to remain social.

I guess maybe he will now "pick and choose" his jobs? Though sounds like he had already been doing this prior ... unless those jobs were toxic to him and he did it for the cash or other motivations, but in his blog he says he loved startups. (It also says he build companies for fun, that to me isn't the same as "retired")

Anyways, the way I see that is more like someone boasting about financial freedom but still actively working. Is that how people define "retirement" these days?

Is my understanding of retirement wrong?

Comment by digilypse 3 hours ago

Does art lack meaning and purpose until it’s sold?

Your interpretation of retirement is probably more strict than most people’s, but even if it wasn’t, how can it be hard to imagine connecting with a community outside your coworkers and customers? That you don’t have to be employed and monetizing your labor to create anything worth sharing?

Even if you would be miserable without some form of external validation how can it be difficult to imagine that others are capable of simply enjoying the limited time they have to be alive, spending it on things that matter more to them than polishing a deck on SaaS sales metrics? How can it be unclear that the reality of work for the vast, vast majority of humans on earth is a brutally costly and undesirable experience? People die in low-paying jobs they took to survive roughly every other minute.

Good for you that you dig what you’re doing though, I hope you never have to see the alternative.

Comment by hmokiguess 44 minutes ago

I was talking more about OP, and folks in his position, that seem to chase a bag of cash and then boast about retirement but keep relentlessly doing exactly what they did before.

What you're talking about feels very different to me, this idea of having to work to survive or the idea of an artist that wants to express themselves but ends up selling his art to pay the bills, I find those to be different societal constructs and it doesn't really feel like something I would call "work" either.

If my definition of retirement is different than most, than maybe so is my definition of "work".

I am definitely grateful, and I do value what I have! It wasn't always like this.

Comment by _diyar 15 hours ago

He hit (killed?) his father on the head with a baseball bat.

Comment by goodcake3963 12 hours ago

This is why i believe, after prison, there shouldn't be any consequences since you already spent your sentence

Comment by cat-whisperer 17 hours ago

your website uses the exact tech as the openAI website that they had for Astra. Interesting

Comment by aaron_m04 16 hours ago

I don't know anything about this Astra thing but his site looks very AI-generated!

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Comment by aaron_m04 13 hours ago

Striking resemblance.

Comment by akk0 15 hours ago

Show HN: I write books and stuff and have a juicy clickbait hook

Good for you, mate! Less good for those nuclear secrets you may or may not have stolen and those antelopes you may or may not have sex trafficked

Comment by louwrentius 16 hours ago

Telling people that you are a convicted fellon without disclosing what you did is a red flag to me.

Especially if its for the purpose to drum up interest for your autobiography.

Comment by blobbers 16 hours ago

And definitely seem to give off 'smug' vibes about his life afterwards. I'm all for people paying their debt but I didn't get the main theme of hope.

I got a feeling of lack of remorse and someone sort of sociopathically showing off.

Comment by schmookeeg 13 hours ago

There are some parallels with other very successful people I have met in my travels. Thankfully not all, but a lot seem to have this... personality quirk.

Comment by tobadzistsini 12 hours ago

It's called reddit derangement.

Comment by blobbers 11 hours ago

Care to elaborate?

Comment by DivingForGold 15 hours ago

Assault and Battery with a Deadly Weapon.

Ummmm, actually, I can think of a few politicians who have been accomplices to this, or have authorized this type crime, even one more recent, on a massive genocidal scale, against foreign citizens.

"All this time, no one knew that I was a convicted felon".

Hmm, did he change his name, or ?

Comment by megraf 17 hours ago

What did you do?

Comment by pavel_lishin 17 hours ago

https://buford.bg/books/buford-versus-oklahoma-1

Doesn't go into the why, however. Presumably future chapters will.

Comment by larrymcp 16 hours ago

I believe I've located a news article which gives a brief description of the altercation, at https://archive.is/utJqE

It says that his mother told police that "her son hit her husband after the couple confronted him about being involved in a robbery. She told police her son had property in his room that they believed may have come from the robbery."

Comment by rectang 16 hours ago

I've read it and besides the "why", I'm also wondering about the long-term impact on the person who was hit (Buford's father).

Comment by pavel_lishin 16 hours ago

I guess this means chapter one's a good hook.

Comment by literallyroy 16 hours ago

Unfortunately there is no chapter 2 for me to pay for…

Comment by readthenotes1 16 hours ago

Tldr:

Hit his dad on the head with a metal baseball bat with other family members around.

Comment by JuniperMesos 16 hours ago

This could be a crazy violent act that deserves making someone a felon, it could be an act of self defense that was unfairly prosecuted, or it could be something in between.

Comment by mmmlinux 16 hours ago

Well it happened when they accused him of being part of a robbery that took place. So, kind of looks like it might be the first one.

Comment by codazoda 15 hours ago

In that first chapter, however, he discusses his relief. Even after realizing how horrific what he just did is.

As someone else said, there is no chapter 2.

My own guess is that it was a response to some type of long-term abuse.

I can't even find a mailing list to sign up for. But I'd read the rest of this.

Comment by keel-control 16 hours ago

ASPD perhaps which would also explain his fast life type strategies of high risk high reward low impulse control decisions. Which in this case led to success.

Reminds of the veritassium video where it said being persistent is more valuable than being consistent in the sense that you only need to win the lottery once to be rich forever. Whereas you can consistently work a job for an indefinite quantity of time and never be rich.

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Comment by soperj 16 hours ago

most people who win the lottery aren't rich forever.

Comment by tomjakubowski 15 hours ago

I think GP likely meant "win the lottery" metaphorically, like playing the startup game and getting to a large exit.

Comment by 15155 15 hours ago

I imagine this largely depends on whether one elects for the lump sum or annuity payments.

Comment by 84949595 17 hours ago

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Comment by tobadzistsini 12 hours ago

OP hasn't commented here yet. @serf's saying "the fact that you're quick to tell me you're a convicted felon but not why" ends this thread for me. Also commenters saying you committed patricide is concerning. You may claim to have 'seven figures' but you'll always carry a stain on your soul. Just remember money won't sway the almighty. Go away, this is hn not reddit.