macOS 27: Workaround to avoid downloading AI models and save storage

Posted by ano-ther 1 day ago

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Comment by hbn 1 day ago

I'll say they definitely need to let people disable/offload the model, but if you haven't tried the new Siri, it's been great. Obviously it's not a state of the art LLM, but it's good enough, and the fact that it can search and take actions on your local data makes it incredibly useful. I definitely use it more on my iPhone where it's slower to get things done the traditional way, but I use it all the time now.

"What was the quote for my insurance claim?" - it'll look through your emails and pull the number with the source email so you can jump right to it.

The other day I asked "when did I arrive and leave Mexico City on my trip at the end of 2024?" and it nailed it based off my flight receipt.

Since learning Spanish I get a lot more Spanish stuff in my feeds, and if I e.g. don't understand a meme I'll just ask "explain the joke here" and it reads the screen and explains it.

You can have an article open in Safari and say "remind me to read this tonight" and it'll make a reminder with the link. Or you can modify reminders - "move my reminder to get groceries to tomorrow at the same time". Yesterday I told it to make me a reminder and it did, but I worded it in a clunky way so I followed it with "reword that to sound more natural" and it did it.

We've been trained for a long time to think Siri can't do anything but I urge you to try it once you're on the new one, it's quite good. And I'm sure I've barely touched all the things it can do. David Pogue published a pretty thorough test other day:

https://pogueman.substack.com/p/125-tests-of-the-new-ai-siri

Comment by nunez 1 day ago

Siri AI is very capable, but *I* should have control over when and whether *I* decide to enable or completely delete it.

I wasn't expecting Apple to force-feed the AI into my mouth with this new Siri release, but turning "Apple Intelligence" into "Siri AI" and removing the opt-out toggle is gross.

(You can't disable all of other fka Apple Intelligence stuff without disabling Siri AI, and you can't disable Siri AI without switching your Siri language to an unsupported region and turning a bunch of stuff off in Content Privacy and Restrictions. On Watch, Siri is front and center of your Suggested Apps carousel --- which they removed Recent Apps to create, an extremely useful feature --- unless you change YOUR ENTIRE WATCH'S REGION to some other unsupported country. None of this is okay.)

Anecdotally, I can do all of the stuff you've listed can be done without Siri AI or "Classic" Siri and get correct answers almost 100% of the time.

Comment by m463 1 day ago

Like all macos features you used to like/depend on...

"privacy is a right"

becomes

privacy is a "defaults write <obscure-key>"

Comment by lynndotpy 1 day ago

As a side note, the Apple Watch changes have completely made Camera Remote unusable for me, a feature I loved.

I don't know why, but I usually can only get Camera Remote to work when I close all of the recent apps on my Apple Watch, even when my watch and phone were the newest ones Apple released. Probably a bug with memory management they're never going to fix. Now, that's not possible, even when I reboot my watch :(

Comment by II2II 23 hours ago

I agree that you should have the ability to remove AI features, but that isn't the direction Apple has followed for the past decade or so. There's a lot of stuff in macOS that one should be able to remove, or at least disable, if one isn't interested in living within the Apple ecosystem.

Comment by solarkraft 21 hours ago

> Anecdotally, I can do all of the stuff you've listed can be done without Siri AI or "Classic" Siri and get correct answers almost 100% of the time

You mean the way that takes 20x as long?

Comment by coldtea 9 hours ago

The one that is almost just as fast workflow wise, far more capable, has more features, is developed at a faster pace, and is not forced on the user screwing their privacy.

Comment by nunez 16 hours ago

Better for it to take 20x as long and be right than to be 20x faster but be wrong while looking right...

Comment by brailsafe 18 hours ago

I get that these are things you might do regularly and feel more empowered to use Siri for them... but they're rather banal and could be done with literally a one or two step process previously, especially if you're already using Apple's first-party apps which seem to be a requirement here. In both email cases, Spotlight handles searches like that just fine, and moving a calendar event only requires clicking and dragging.

I'm here wondering why so much extra space is warranted, or how to take it back, not so much how I can find a document with specific text in it or use Siri to do something else that was already very easy.

One task I'm wondering about is for example, asking Siri (on the mac) to analyze a huge dump of arbitrary PDFs that may or may not have non-OCRed text in them, and efficiently reorg and rename them based on what the documents should be. This also seems like a mundane task, but requires a little more than just a standard search and would allow someone to take their entire paper archive of private business documents and create a digital archive without too much risk or work. This is something that all local models I've tried so far really struggle with.

Comment by hbn 9 hours ago

I don't know which Spotlight search you've been using but it certainly has not been consistent and reliable in years.

And I don't find manually searching for emails to find something like flight dates that easy. I've flown to/from Mexico city 6 times in the past couple years, and the airline tends to send like 12 emails pertaining to every trip I book, so asking Siri is much faster.

Not to mention these are tasks I'll be able to do in winter while wearing gloves.

Comment by lynndotpy 1 day ago

Our experiences diverge surprisingly far. The new Siri was worse for everything I use it for before I turned it off.

The new Siri can not reliably return the weather (it seems it's prompting on the literal text of the town and asks for a clarification sometimes about whether I am in the United States or United Kingdom), and when I ask "what is the air quality index", the new Siri would sometimes return the definition of AQI. When it returns a value, new Siri would hallucinate an incorrect and fixed value. In the cases where it does work, it's very much slower than the classic "rainbow orb" Siri.

Comment by hbn 9 hours ago

I've never even tried to ask Siri about the weather because I have a widget for that to the left of my homescreen. And it's on my watch.

Comment by DiskoHexyl 9 hours ago

Tried new Siri to set the timer when cooking- it failed to deliver.

First, it’s unreliable in when to say what you want after Hey Siri, then it just didn’t do anything, and the third time it silently set the timer but didn’t confirm anything so I have then set another timer manually to only find out later that they both run.

Hard to trust this product with anything serious when it still can’t do the job of a kitchen clock from half a century ago

Comment by alwillis 1 day ago

A couple of things I've done with Apple Intelligence on the Mac:

* When I need a prescription refilled, the quickest way is to message my doctor using the patient portal. I created a Shortcut that lets me pick among 5 medications; Apple Intelligence then generates a message with the request to the clipboard which I paste into the message field and send.

* I have a Shortcut that creates a morning summary: Apple Intelligence generates the weather report. I also get what’s on today's calendar and any current or past-due Reminders.

Just scratching the surface here; will flesh these out more later and create some new ones now that I'm running the release version of Golden Gate and not the beta.

Comment by vinni2 1 day ago

Not sure if I want Siri to know my prescription medication.

Comment by alwillis 1 day ago

> Not sure if I want Siri to know my prescription medication.

Using Shortcuts, a user can use the Cloud model via Private Cloud Compute, the Cloud Pro with "world knowledge, and the on-device model. It occurred to me I probably don't need the Cloud; I switched to the on-device model, which worked fine.

There's no way for Siri or anybody else to know anything about a transaction using Private Cloud Compute:

    We designed Private Cloud Compute to make several guarantees about
    the way it handles user data [1]:
    
    A user’s device sends data to PCC for the sole, exclusive purpose of
    fulfilling the user’s inference request. PCC uses that data only to
    perform the operations requested by the user. User data stays on the
    PCC nodes that are processing the request only until the response is
    returned. PCC deletes the user’s data after fulfilling the request,
    and no user data is retained in any form after the response is
    returned. User data is never available to Apple — even to staff with
    administrative access to the production service or hardware.

[1]: https://security.apple.com/blog/private-cloud-compute/

Comment by vinni2 1 day ago

I am sorry no amount of assurances from any company is going to make me reveal my medical information to products from any tech company.

Comment by alwillis 20 hours ago

> I am sorry no amount of assurances from any company is going to make me reveal my medical information to products from any tech company.

Unlike your insurance provider or credit card company, which keep your prescription details, Apple Intelligence deletes the data once you receive a response—a fact Apple could verify if necessary.

It appears I did not need the cloud; my prescription information stayed on my iPhone to create the request, thanks to the Apple Foundation models running locally.

Comment by vinni2 18 hours ago

Luckily I live in a country with universal healthcare and our pharmacies don’t transmit prescription medication info to credit cards. They just show some prescription medication was purchased

Comment by pseudosaid 16 hours ago

what a cute anecdote. much success to your assurances

Comment by hbn 1 day ago

The Apple Intelligence Shortcuts creation is great as well. I never had a desire to learn their visual programming language so I mostly ignored Shortcuts. Now it's one-shot some really handy utilities for me.

Comment by crossroadsguy 18 hours ago

> I'll say they definitely need to let people disable/offload the model

If you have used mac/iOS (esp. Mac; well, because on iOS you can't do anything other than what's on screen essentially) for a long time you might realise Apple, at this point, is simply not capable of even developing those features that will allow users to do such things. And you don't even have to know Swift/objC for this sad realisation. I am pretty sure someone would have mentioned and they'd have realised it meant moving around a million hardcoded modules and frameworks and turning on/off a billion flags (a lot of them potentially global). They are that incompetent when it comes to software.

Comment by zahlman 1 day ago

> "What was the quote for my insurance claim?" - it'll look through your emails and pull the number with the source email so you can jump right to it.

> The other day I asked "when did I arrive and leave Mexico City on my trip at the end of 2024?" and it nailed it based off my flight receipt.

Where you see convenience, I see a security nightmare.

Comment by EricE 23 hours ago

How? It's all on machine. Which is the point.

Comment by Terr_ 20 hours ago

Doing inference locally is a significant improvement, but other issues remain, like prompt injection and data exfiltration.

Especially if the whole point is to have it search through a giant pile of arbitrary un-vetted stuff, like all the emails you ever received from anybody.

Comment by browningstreet 23 hours ago

Why, factoring in the design of Apple Intelligence?

Comment by kdkdkwjdjwkd 23 hours ago

He says, browsing the Internet, probably with a Google account.

Comment by CursedSilicon 19 hours ago

(Whispering) multiple things can, in fact, be bad

Comment by odkdkwjdiwjd 17 hours ago

(speaking normally, as this is the internet and not an orchestra) No one said, in fact, that they couldn’t

Comment by CursedSilicon 14 hours ago

Why do you keep making burners?

Comment by alwillis 1 day ago

Posted: "Turn off and restrict access to Apple Intelligence features on Mac" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49790409

Not a bad list from Apple.

Comment by Merad 1 day ago

Is it able to work with non default apps like Gmail?

Comment by hbn 1 day ago

Not the Gmail app, but a Gmail account, yes. You have to at least have the default Mail app installed and signed in for it to be able to index the emails.

Comment by jtbayly 1 day ago

Yeah, I’ll wait to update my computers until Apple gives us an actual choice.

Comment by drooopy 1 day ago

I still don't see a good reason to upgrade from Sequoia.

Comment by plutokras 1 day ago

I was skipping Tahoe too after seeing all those posts about the differently rounded corners.

This time I took the plunge and upgraded, and I have to admit the whole system, especially Safari is much more snappy than before.

Comment by kristofferR 1 day ago

macOS 27 is way faster and more stable than macOS 26 though, so unless you are on an ancient version it doesn't make sense to not upgrade.

Comment by compiler-guy 1 day ago

Being short on disk space is a pretty good reason to not upgrade.

I would rather keep my personal picture library on my local disk (with backups, of course) than gigabytes and gigabytes of Apple models.

They were the ones who thought that 256Gb was a reasonable number. And it actually did work pretty well, until they wanted to fill it with models.

Comment by kqp 21 hours ago

Calling something cutting edge one year ago “ancient” is absolutely wild. To me that word means, like, pre Apple Silicon.

Comment by ChrisRR 11 hours ago

Ancient to me means like OSX Tiger

Comment by jtbayly 1 day ago

On one of my machines, I don’t know if I could even make it fit. So it’s a no-brainer to not update on that one, if they are going to force an extra 14GB download on me.

Comment by seam_carver 1 day ago

macOS 15 still gets security updates.

Comment by includenotfound 1 day ago

That's what I use on my M1 Macbook Air too, works fine.

Comment by Toslink 59 minutes ago

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Comment by CodingJeebus 1 day ago

I've hit some really weird window/workspace UI bugs so far in MacOS27. It's not no-brainer update yet, IMO.

Comment by alwillis 1 day ago

> I've hit some really weird window/workspace UI bugs so far in MacOS27.

Lucky for us, macOS 27.2 is already in beta: https://www.macrumors.com/2026/09/21/apple-seeds-macos-27-2-...

Comment by platevoltage 1 day ago

It keeps putting my left mounted dock on the wrong monitor for some reason. never happened before.

Comment by wahnfrieden 1 day ago

Time to permanently offboard from Apple ecosystem then

Comment by jtbayly 1 day ago

Perhaps eventually. I know I’m in a “closed ecosystem,” and that removes a fair bit of choice in a variety of places. But Apple is known to walk bad decisions back at times. This update is an example, with liquid glass. Another recent one was the iCloud private email planned domain change being scrapped.

Comment by bee_rider 1 day ago

I mean they added a slider to make Liquid Glass slightly less bad, but the “good” end is just the old “reduce transparency” option. They’ve got a lot of progress to make, if they are ever going to give us back the pre-liquid-glass UI density.

Comment by wahnfrieden 1 day ago

Liquid Glass was rushed out because their flagship WWDC feature, Apple Intelligence, wasn’t ready as expected. They knew they didn’t finish refining Glass as they had intended to. They had unfinished work with Glass that got pushed to this year due to the last minute change in direction. The refinements we got weren’t only the product of feedback and they already intended to revisit the design.

This situation is a bit different where they’ve taken several years delay now to refine their AI strategy before releasing it.

If they let users permanently opt out of their AI rollouts this early on, their stock will plummet. They’re going to focus on making it better to drive adoption and value instead of letting people remove themselves from exposure to what they have in the pipeline.

Comment by sleepybrett 1 day ago

why is a local model any different than any other file they want to install with their os?

Comment by hbn 1 day ago

Well because it could be an extra ~20GB which is not nothing if you have a 256GB disk.

Comment by SkyeCA 1 day ago

By that logic why not fill the hard drive with OS data? This is a company mind you that still sells some laptops with a base configuration of 256GB, so 10-20GB isn't an insignificant amount to many users especially when it's taken by a feature they may not even use.

Comment by njovin 1 day ago

It's 14GB of something I don't want, need, nor have any use for, on a machine that is notorious for making storage upgrades difficult.

Comment by soapdog 1 day ago

because some people don't want AI and would rather even the files were not present in their computer.

Comment by compiler-guy 1 day ago

I do want (some, carefully curated as to certain usecases) AI. But I don't want to waste my diskspace for this AI.

Comment by alwillis 1 day ago

Friendly reminder:

Many apps (like dictation apps) ship with their own models totally separate from Apple Intelligence.

For example, Co-Typist [1] is very useful, but it requires a model installed with it, ranging from Gemma 3 1B at 0.8 GB to Gemma 4 26B A4B Pro at 15.7 GB. It recommended Gemma E2B (3.2 GB) for my 16 GB, M1 Pro MacBook Pro.

It works really well; the autocompletion is so good, it knows what I'm going to type before I do!

Here's the thing: you may not be aware of the amount of storage being used by models in various 3rd-party apps.

The open-source app What The Model [2] scans your machine and reports all the models it finds and gives you the total amount of storage being used.

[1]: https://cotypist.app

[2]: https://github.com/powtac/wtm

Comment by worldsavior 1 day ago

Though what about security fixes?

Comment by happyopossum 1 day ago

Worth pointing out that the Foundational Models can be used by more than just Siri - apps, shortcuts, etc can call/run those models for local inference.

Comment by jleehn 1 day ago

Tangentially related, I've always been frustrated by Apple's refusal to allow sorting photos/videos by file size. It feels like a blatant push to force users towards paying for their cloud storage.

Comment by bdavbdav 1 day ago

Not ideal, but their disk space recovery thing in settings can do I believe.

Comment by ebtebt 1 day ago

How much storage does this save?

Comment by fuu_dev 1 day ago

Apple intelligence is listed as 29 GB in the Storage settings. Which should be the amount of space you get back.

MacOS 27 is also diffrent in that it does still downloads the data for EU users and removes or hides options in menues to dissable functionality. This means users lose the said space when upgrading to 27.

Comment by fundatus 1 day ago

Apple Intelligence is available on macOS in the EU. It's only disabled on iOS/iPadOS.

Comment by CharlesW 1 day ago

Interestingly, Siri AI was able to answer this with a reference: Up to 14 GB. https://imgur.com/a/SZGh1ca

Comment by iAMkenough 1 day ago

That's not a reliable source or reference. Read the disclaimer at the bottom.

Comment by alwillis 1 day ago

> That's not a reliable source or reference. Read the disclaimer at the bottom.

The "Always verify important details. Siri is an Al that may make mistakes." is the new version of "your mileage may vary".

Also, I get a similar message when using Gemini, OpenAI and Claude.

I own a "Standard iPhone" and an M1 Mac; these numbers track.

Comment by VCFundedGenYer 1 day ago

LLMs are not sources.

Comment by halJordan 23 hours ago

Keep tilting at windmills. Wikipedia was also not a source

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Comment by CharlesW 1 day ago

Yes, I'd sanity-checked the answer on my machine, which is 15.5 GB on iOS 27.2: https://imgur.com/a/XVT8rme

Not all of the space used by Apple Intelligence is downloaded model size, which explains the reasonable difference.

Comment by iAMkenough 1 day ago

Your reality is yours, not mine. https://imgur.com/a/3viouLd

I'm not upset, just pointing out TweakTown gave Apple's AI misleading information about Apple's products. You might have 30GB of wasted space on your 128GB drive due to Apple Intelligence features on your Mac (like me).

Comment by CharlesW 1 day ago

Apologies, I didn't mean to upset you. Per the title I was talking about the downloaded core model sizes, which are a bit under 8 GB or 14 GB in OS 27 depending on device: https://support.apple.com/en-us/121115

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Comment by lotsofpulp 1 day ago

This type of stuff gives me PTSD flashbacks from trying timo de-crapify Windows.

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Comment by VCFundedGenYer 1 day ago

They need an option to completely disable and delete Apple Intelligence.

A 256GB Mac Mini is effectively unable to use macOS 27 due to this bloated nonsense.

Comment by viccis 1 day ago

Yeah I use my 256gb Mac Mini for iOS dev, which has always had enough space for an iPad and iPhone simulator with plenty to spare, but this eats way into that.

Comment by 5555watch 1 day ago

If Siri and Apple Intelligence is disabled in the settings, does it still do the download?

Comment by thih9 1 day ago

Off topic. Since old.reddit is now login walled - is there an alternative frontend?

Comment by wrxd 1 day ago

If you are interested in read-only access pick one a Redlib instance https://github.com/redlib-org/redlib-instances/blob/main/ins...

Comment by VCFundedGenYer 1 day ago

Use "Old Reedit Redirect" for Firefox - it still lets you in without a login.

Comment by thisislife2 1 day ago

If you meant this extension - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/old-reddit-re... - it doesn't work. I still get the javascript crappified "new" Reddit.

Comment by thescriptkiddie 1 day ago

safereddit.com

Comment by jawilson2 9 hours ago

Is there a version of this that uses more than 10% of my horizontal screen space? I have a 40in monitor, I don't need the website compressed to the aspect ratio of a phone.

Comment by thewhitetulip 1 day ago

I am tired to fight against every platform that I have to use

De macify Mac Degoogle Android Demacify ipad DeLLM chrome browsers local llm

Can we expect sane decisions from corpos about what we want rather than what latest thing they want to push on us?

Comment by agoodusername63 1 day ago

no. buy a linux compatible laptop and deal with the UX downgrade.

Comment by hattar 1 day ago

There are definitely some cool features missing, but I'd take KDE over any other window manager without a second thought if it were possible.

Comment by davidee 22 hours ago

I’ve found the downgrade surprisingly minimal on plasma 6 - and it’s far more customizable.

Thanks to marginal gains on MacOs (nee OS X) the Linux desktop gets closer more quickly than Apple can pull away.

Comment by drooopy 1 day ago

What downgrade? A typical Gnome desktop is far more coherent than Windows or even macOS in some regards these days.

Comment by zahlman 1 day ago

Yes, and you can do much better than GNOME, too.

Comment by thewhitetulip 21 hours ago

Yes I use cosmic DE on Fedora. I didn't find it a downgrade at all! Despite not running an M chip it is butter smooth

Comment by ezst 1 day ago

KDE. KDE is all you need.

Comment by kdkdkwjdjwkd 22 hours ago

If you’re gonna use KDE, just go with Windows. Same UI paradigm and, surprisingly, Windows looks better (that’s how bad KDE looks).

Comment by ezst 17 hours ago

"look, MacOS is following the same trend as windows as to become measurably worse over time, with bloat, slop, user hostile/dark pattern, removing freedoms configuration and escape hatches"

"KDE is immune to those by design"

"Then use Windows"

I'm surely convinced!

Comment by Ginger-Pickles 1 day ago

One arguably don’t even need KDE any more; the coding models will throw together a perfectly adequate desktop environment.

Comment by regenschutz 1 day ago

Why should one use something adequate when something amazing exists?

Comment by ezst 1 day ago

Not sure what the point of this would be? Devalued street creds for running something nobody else does? Who cares?

Comment by bitwize 1 day ago

Well, it's literally the reason Omarchy exists so some people like it...

Comment by jhack 1 day ago

Apple says their users make 2.5B Siri requests per day. Sounds like people want it?

Comment by drooopy 1 day ago

Never met anyone who used siri out in public, to be honest.

Comment by tiborsaas 1 day ago

Do they have a breakdown for platforms? iOS vs. macOS, I'd bet most of it is iOS.

I don't have Siri enabled, I've never felt the need for it on desktop.

Comment by nozzlegear 1 day ago

I use it on the desktop.

Comment by quaddoggy 1 day ago

Timers. Easily >50% of these requests are people setting timers.

Comment by moribvndvs 1 day ago

Even though I do use it, a choice would be nice.

Comment by Hodgewocket 1 day ago

Are they aware?

Comment by javier2 1 day ago

I dont even have Siri enabled, but even less so on macOS.

Comment by a1o 1 day ago

If you have a car you are forced to because you can’t use Apple Car Play if you don’t enable Siri.

I also don’t use but I have to have it enabled to be able to use Google Maps, and Siri occasionally mistakes a conversation for being invited to listen and speak.

Comment by officeplant 1 day ago

>you can’t use Apple Car Play if you don’t enable Siri.

It works for me, but I'm using wired carplay on an iphone 11 w/ios27. (In the US, Swapped to Siri Classic, then disabled it.)

Looking around online it seems doing it wired can bypass the Siri requirement. Which may work in my case because in the Ford headunit I can force wireless projection to be off and blocked (including turning off the wifi for the headunit). So some cars might be forcing wireless Carplay and triggering the Siri requirement.

Comment by cromulent 1 day ago

Curious. I have Siri turned off (just checked again) and I use Apple CarPlay daily. Maybe an EU thing.

Comment by GuinansEyebrows 1 day ago

i wonder how many of them are like 100% of my requests?

- "set a timer for 14 minutes"

- "remind me to make a doctor's appointment tomorrow at noon"

- "turn off the bedroom lights"

that don't require any form of AI and have functioned perfectly well (aside from having a hard time when i mumble) for years on non-AI versions of Siri?

Comment by thewebguyd 1 day ago

I suspect even some of the more "advanced" queries they demoed off, i.e., "what was that restaurant John and I talked about last week?" also not require LLMs whatsoever and could have been accomplished with a simple search.

Comment by anamexis 1 day ago

I think you're going to need some kind of ML to turn that question into a structured search, and interpret the results.

Comment by regenschutz 1 day ago

Not necessarily. NLP is possible to do without any ML. See ELIZA [0] as an example, which used pattern matching and substitution to process natural language. A few simple rules can cover a majority of requests. It's still AI, but not ML.

Though I do agree that the ML-based NLP thst we have today is much more usable, albeit more compute-expensive.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA

Comment by exographicskip 1 day ago

This matches my use cases. Poor speech to text recognition so I don't trust siri to do anything non-trivial

Comment by dreamcompiler 1 day ago

Siri was always AI, but the popular connotation of "AI" changes all the time. It now means "LLMs built with transformers."

Comment by pesus 1 day ago

I get forced to use it While using CarPlay. I don't particularly want it, though, considering it still regularly fails at basic tasks like adding the currently playing song to a playlist.

Comment by thewhitetulip 1 day ago

How many apple devices exist globally?

Does everyone use siri? How about keeping it opt-in?

Comment by mathisfun123 1 day ago

> 2.5B Siri requests per day

that's like one request per day per user lolol

Comment by vitalrune 1 day ago

The issue it's they make it very hard to remove it to clear the space used by it, i think you got to boot into recovery mode and do some risky crap, my macbook is almost out of space just from development cache..

Comment by basisword 1 day ago

You don't need to. Use the alternatives.

Comment by amennox 8 hours ago

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Comment by itsmeduncan 1 day ago

There's a distinction worth drawing here: "on-device" and "local" are not the same thing, and this thread is really about the gap between them. A model Apple pushes to your disk that you can't inspect, swap, or remove, that runs when the OS decides, is on-device in the literal sense and gives you none of the control that makes local AI worth wanting. Local, in the sense people actually mean it, is that you chose the weights, you chose when it runs, and you can delete it. Forcing a 14-29GB model you can't uninstall is the inverse of that. The storage complaint is real, but the deeper one is that "we put AI on your device" quietly became "we put our AI on your device."

Comment by kotaKat 1 day ago

without a reddit account:

... can you also force Siri off by using Screen Time controls? I noticed that in the Screen Time menus, "Content and Privacy" restrictions can be toggled on. From there seems to be an additional "Siri" menu that lets me change the allowed Siri version from Siri Classic to Siri AI as well as options to turn off the global writing tools/assistance (which turns off the annoying Siri bubble on every textbox now).

I suspect forcing Siri off via those controls would work easier than using Low Data Mode or trying to force Siri to disable via language selection.