Federal Communications Commission scraps limit on broadcast TV ownership
Posted by pseudolus 10 hours ago
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Comment by magicalist 10 hours ago
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/08/can-trump-fcc-re...
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Comment by hungryhobbit 8 hours ago
This idiocy hasn't had its day in court yet, but (especially given how the courts have turned against the administration in most cases recently) it seems highly likely this will be found to be illegal.
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Comment by ilovetux 9 hours ago
Doesn't that mean agencies like this are not free to set their own rules when a law is ambiguous?
And isnt the cap on number of households reached actually codified unambiguously in federal law?
Seems to me like this should not be allowed to happen.
Let me know if I am wrong.
Comment by disposition2 9 hours ago
> The 39% cap was established by Congress in 2004.
1. https://www.baltimoresun.com/2026/08/06/federal-communicatio...
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Comment by jibal 5 hours ago
No way am I giving the GOP-controlled Congress a pass on its numerous failures to oppose corrupt appointments or to impeach corrupt officials--including of course Carr--but that's not germane here ... an understanding of how the government works is, and clearly many people lack that.
Also, while the GOP is corrupt through and through, including the GOP-dominated SCOTUS, saying that the "branches" are is inaccurate -- the lower courts are still a bulwark against corruption. This simplistic throwaway handwaving in no way invalidates my entirely accurate comment about the roles of the branches. I won't waste more time commenting on this.
Comment by curt15 9 hours ago
Agencies can say whatever they want but courts are not required to defer to them when this inevitably goes to a lawsuit.
Comment by ilovetux 8 hours ago
Edit: made applies past tense
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Comment by trollbridge 10 hours ago
In exchange, we have a great deal of spectrum tied up for terrestrial TV, much of which goes to running infomercials or else is surreptitiously leased for terrestrial data broadcasts. And the government gets to decide to regulate it so it becomes inherently politicised - like favouring certain owners.
Realistically - this spectrum should simply be reassigned for IP based services, with perhaps some set aside for non profit / educational uses, some for commercial, etc.
(Radio is pretty much the same boat but I can see a case to be made for keeping some analog FM radio broadcasts. The 6MHz per channel for TV is insane.)
Comment by walrus01 10 hours ago
It's not that people are literally watching these on over the air digital TV antenna systems, but that if you have a "Broadcast TV" station in a certain market, it becomes carried by default on cable systems, direct to home satellite satellite dish systems, and regional FTTH providers' last-mile cable-tv-equivalent products.
Look at for example how all the Seattle TV stations are carried on Comcast or Astound's networks.
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Comment by toast0 6 hours ago
They did this in the US already, three times.
In 1983, channels 70 to 83 were taken for mobile phones. In 2008, rf channels 52-69 were reassigned, and 2016, rf 38-51 were reassigned. rf 37 is reserved for radio astronomy.
Comment by UncleOxidant 10 hours ago
We've got internet, but no cable. So we still watch over-the-air TV, though it's mostly PBS at this point (which is non profit). Also listen to FM radio - mostly NPR, a jazz station and a classical station - all also non-profit.
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Comment by BeetleB 9 hours ago
Fairly wrong/irrelevant metric. Lots of people subscribe to Netflix and watch OTA broadcasts.
Lots of people stick to a Plex membership just because of its DVR capability - that's for broadcast TV.
Lots of DVR and adjacent products out there on the market for people who watch broadcast TV.
I wouldn't dream of getting a cable subscription when I can get so much good content for free. Streaming fills the rest.
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Comment by CamperBob2 10 hours ago
The people who watch it vote in numbers far out of proportion to their peers. Nobody would bother to capture the industry if it weren't worthwhile.
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Comment by jyoung8607 10 hours ago
If you plug in an antenna and scan for local channels, what used to be one analog TV channel on colloquially-named "channel 7" in the defined channel 7 frequency range will now be seen as "channel 7-1" which is often (but not always!) actually broadcast on the old frequency. During the ATSC transition, it was important to retain the branding and consumer memory of "channel 7" even when the RF transport frequency changed.
The transition opened the ability to have an arbitrary number of digital subchannels, 7-2, 7-3, etc etc. The total bitrate available on a given ATSC broadcast is fixed, but it can be partitioned among multiple MPEG streams. The typical setup is one (occasional two) HD channels and several SD channels. Obviously there's a balancing act between bitrate and visual quality for each subchannel. It's often used as a way to broadcast older (read: cheaper) syndicated SD content on which they can run more ads while keeping the main HD channel quality reasonably acceptable.
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Comment by jyoung8607 9 hours ago
I mean sure, you could pack four streams into one 6MHz channel. They could even be "HD" insofar as the transmitted stream is 720p or 1080i.
The result would have been MPEG-2 program streams of about 4.5Mbit each instead of about 18-19Mbit (assuming no other subchannels). That would make live sports or anything with significant motion look like absolute dogshit.
You might say that you don't care about that, and that is fine for you. However, in that case, I would respectfully submit that opinion to be far from the center of the bell curve of television-viewing American public of that era.
We could do a lot better with ATSC 3.0. So, there might someday be a second round of broadcast frequency reclamation, just as there was with ATSC 1.0.
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Comment by toast0 6 hours ago
rf 70+ is 800 Mhz
rf 52+ is 700 Mhz
rf 38+ is 600 Mhz
Lots of phones support these frequencies.
Kind of annoying for tv, because cell towers on frequencies that used to be tv frequencies can overload amplifiers, so peeps need to go put filters up before the preamp.
Comment by wmf 9 hours ago
Comment by jyoung8607 8 hours ago
If you got into a time machine and tried your plan two decades ago, the conversations would have gone something like this:
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Government: "Hey broadcaster, we need you to throw out and upgrade all your broadcast equipment that's working just fine today."
Broadcaster: "Why?"
Government: "So we can auction off some of the broadcast channel bandwidth."
Broadcaster: "Why else?"
Government: "That's really it."
Broadcaster: "How about instead, I take a little bit of that money you're asking me to spend, and give it to your political opponent's campaign?"
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Government: "Hey citizens, we need you to buy a new TV or buy an adapter for your current TV that's currently working just fine."
Citizen: "Why?"
Government: "So we can auction off some of the broadcast channel bandwidth."
Citizen: "Why else?"
Government: "That's really it."
Citizen: "How about instead, I vote for the opposition candidate who says he'll let me keep my TV and my money?"
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We're able to juggle broadcast frequencies more easily after the transition. Not only did we shrink the broadcast frequency range at the time of transition, we did it again about ten years ago with far less pain.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_United_States_wireless_sp...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_wireless_sp...
TL;DR: 480i would have been an absolute non-starter.
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Gonna look like absolute trash. Might be almost acceptable with atsc 3, except for the diaster of DRM and new proprietary audio codecs that brings.
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Why are you bundling all those things together? The only thing we care about here is cable or satellite TV for your argument.
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Broadcast TV today is a stream of bytes. The same stream can be delivered via cable, satellite, a cell phone, or home Internet.
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Comment by CMay 8 hours ago
At the same time, in a country with many competing localities, radio stations, public broadcast TV, university channels, etc like the US it is quite nice so long as it's balanced. I think in the US it is a legal requirement that any licensed broadcasts legally meet some bar as being "in service to the public". Many companies have a similar philosophy and see themselves as doing a good thing by serving the public, while running a sustainable business at the same time. Not all companies, though.
That's not to say we haven't seen garbage broadcast over the airwaves that I wouldn't consider to be in service to the public, but on average it's alright.
What was Netherlands' reasoning for doing this?
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Comment by londons_explore 8 hours ago
This seems like a very odd rule. What about things like CNN? Aren't they available to 100% of households?
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Comment by programmertote 7 hours ago
I immigrated from a very poor, military-ruled country to the US more than 20 years ago. It is very sad to see the democratic system and the rule of law eroding in the US. All the mistakes that I observed and lived through in my former country are being practiced in the US these days.
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Comment by magarnicle 6 hours ago
From my side of the pond this looks like a very outdated law that they've gotten rid of, though I understand the US TV market is pretty complex.
Comment by altcognito 10 hours ago
I think anybody with a gripe about "mainstream media" should really examine who owns most of the media (billionaires) and see the value in enforcing that more indepedent voices are heard, not less as the past three decades has been a relentless march towards.
The whole idea with the advent of the internet was that there would be so many more ways to be heard. That's been kinda true, but the public airwaves are dominated by corporate voices.
Comment by sophacles 8 hours ago
At this point its just as meaningless of a term as "liberal" and "socialist". It describes nothing other than a disagreement with the far right position.
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You can undo a lot of the damage, you just have to actually do it. We need to stop seeing these people as a group of participants in polite society, because they're not.
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From 2017, "Sinclair Broadcast Group: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)":
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvtNyOzGogc
"John Oliver: Sinclair Broadcasting brings 'troubling' rightwing bias to local news":
* https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2017/jul/03/john-ol...
"John Oliver: How Sinclair Broadcast Group 'Brainwashes' Local News":
* https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/john-ol...
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You might not care but Sinclair very much does.
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