Ask HN: Any tips for a college freshman enrolled in computer science?
Posted by NotParth11 1 hour ago
College is going to start in a few days. But seeing the job market, I'm a little scared. What do you all recommend that i should focus on so i can be employable and actually have a job by the time college ends?
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Comment by WhyComboNadir 6 minutes ago
I'm sure that during your studies, through serendipity, you'll find great opportunities to pursue that you couldn't possibly imagine right now. Give yourself the greatest surface area for luck to find you.
Since you posted this here on HN I can already tell that you're the type of person who will not be short of opportunities and already has a good surface area for luck to find you.
Good luck!
Comment by Aurornis 1 minute ago
I recommend keeping your eyes open and getting diverse viewpoints, with some caveats. Universities can be both fast and slow to adapt to changing trends. Your professors will undoubtedly be trying to integrate LLMs into the courses, but what they teach you will probably not entirely hit the mark about where the industry is going. You need to be gaining your own experience with something outside of classes, even if it’s useless little projects that you throw away. Remember to have fun in college, too, but balance that with doing a little more than just trying to get passing grades.
Avoid spending too much time in cynical spaces online that have turned into echo chambers about how we’re all doomed, this career is a dead end, and other negativities. Hacker News has a diverse set of opinions represented but it’s easy to get swept up in the hyper-negative views where we’re all going to be out of jobs and relying on UBI in a couple years.
Comment by qazxcvbnmlp 1 minute ago
Focus on meeting real people and understanding their problems and how you can help. Your connections during college will probably matter more than a particular test score.
Get a job (any job) during college, it shows you're employable and can navigate with the unpleasantries of being employed.
Oh! And dont’ stress too much! Enjoy the ride. Think of it all like a fun new video game. Take in the new levels with curiosity. Have fun! Many people who have jobs now would love to be in your shoes again. Embrace it, enjoy that time of life!
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Comment by ThrowawayR2 52 minutes ago
Knowing the CS theory that college is trying to teach you well enough to apply it will put you ahead of your fellow co-workers when you are a senior developer. Don't neglect learning it. The people who say "I never needed to use CS for my entire career, lol" are the people most easily replaced by AI.
Don't neglect understanding how to use AI to create code but don't become dependent on it either.
Don't neglect your writing courses. Reading and writing clearly is how you interact with your fellow developers and, of course, AI. Too many developers are lousy writers and wind up stuck in the lower ranks because of it.
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Comment by jdw64 1 minute ago
The ACM curriculum focuses more on kernels, OS, and compilers rather than the application layer. It's great for understanding principles, but making money often happens at the application layer. Everyone's aptitude is different.
Programming has many layers. Don't get discouraged if you hit a wall in one area.just move around and explore different layers. You'll definitely find one that suits you
Comment by recursivedoubts 6 minutes ago
https://htmx.org/essays/yes-and/
TLDR:
- Knowing how to do things with computers will likely remain useful in the future
- Learn fundamentals using AI as a TA rather than code generator
- You must write the code
- Learn skills beyond just CS, such as communication & business
- Plan on using personal contacts for a future job, the hiring market is busted
Comment by armchairhacker 11 minutes ago
- If you don't like programming, try to switch to a degree in something else
- If you genuinely enjoy programming, do not try to switch
- Explore specialty fields, if you're interested in one get a combined degree
Comment by int32_64 7 minutes ago
Grades are important but in today's AI-driven job application processes having a 4.0 is less important than knowing somebody at the company.
Comment by gcheong 27 minutes ago
Comment by jschveibinz 57 minutes ago
Learn how to learn. Get really good at that. That is the essence of your college experience. Perhaps consider a minor in a life science, hard technology, or other field that has good employment prospects.
Everything is software these days--it's going to be about applying software rather than pure programming skills.
Take a physics class or two. Learn how and why things work.
If your school has co-op work--do it. It raises your employment prospects at graduation.
Expect to have to consider multiple options/tracks in your career ahead. Adaptation and flexibility will be important. The world is changing quickly.
You can't study everything in college, but you will need to be ready to study and adapt in the years ahead. Good luck and do well in school.
One more thing: be social. Your network of friends will be extremely valuable to you.
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Comment by jleyank 26 minutes ago
And as others have said - do it yourself, put off using crutches such as AI until you understand the process.
Comment by WalterGR 12 minutes ago
You mean in addition to, I hope.
If you want a developer’s career, study CS in college. Full stop.
If you have the time, financial, and psychological resources (school isn't stress free!) then having a minor in a specialized field will (obviously) make you more attractive as a candidate for a development role in that field.
Comment by bluefirebrand 9 minutes ago
I have had a rocky but reasonably successful software dev career built off a CS degree, it's definitely possible
That said I don't think anyone should try and be "just a developer" anymore. The skills are too easy to learn for anyone who is motivated. The most successful dude I ever met in software was a tradesman that thought up a way to automate a lot of the work that went into providing estimates for his clients as a sales tool, taught himself C# and built it.
The code was garbage, it was buggy and messy and half the calculations were probably wrong in the end, but he still sold it to a competitor for millions. :)
I think a lack of experience outside of CS and Software really holds a lot of software devs back from building great and/or valuable things, because you can't have great ideas if you don't have a variety of experiences to draw from