I'm going to build my own OpenClaw, with blackjack and bun
Posted by rcarmo 9 hours ago
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Comment by mg 6 hours ago
Maybe a browser plugin that lets the agent use websites is enough?
What would be a task that an agent cannot do on the web?
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Comment by weird-eye-issue 5 hours ago
But how would claude code work from a browser environment?
Or how would an agent that orchestrates claude code and does some customer service tasks via APIs work in a browser environment?
Would you prefer it do customer service tasks via brittle and slow browser automation instead?
Comment by mg 5 hours ago
how would claude code work from a browser environment?
If you want an agent (like OpenClaw) to write software, why have it use another agent (Claude Code) in the first place? Why not let it develop the software directly? As for how that works in a browser - there are countless web based solutions to write and run software in the cloud. GitHub Codespaces is an example.Comment by rubslopes 4 hours ago
Comment by piva00 5 hours ago
On the other hand LLMs have been a very good tool to build bespoke tools (scripts, small CLI apps) that I can allow them to use. I prefer the constraints without having to think about sandboxing all of it, I design the tools for my workflow/needs, and make them available for the LLM when needed.
It's been a great middle ground, and actually very simple to do with AI-assisted code.
I don't "vibecode" the tools though, I still like to be in the loop acting more as a designer/reviewer of these tools, and let the LLM be the code writer.
Comment by mg 4 hours ago
Couldn't it write them in a web based dev environment?
Comment by piva00 3 hours ago
Don't think a web-based dev environment would be enough for my use case, I point agents to look into example code from other projects in that environment to use as as bootstraps for other tools.
Comment by neya 5 hours ago
I'm actually pro-agents and AI in general - but with careful supervision. Giving an unpredictable (semi) intelligent machine the ability to nuke your life seems like the dumbest idea ever and I am ready to die on this hill. Maybe this comment will age badly and maybe letting your agents "rm -rf /" will be the norm in the next decade and maybe I'll just be that old man yelling at clouds.
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Comment by taddevries 4 hours ago
This title sounds like a Futerama joke if you're not in the know.
Comment by stavros 8 hours ago
https://github.com/skorokithakis/stavrobot
I guess everyone is doing one of these, each with different considerations.
Comment by croes 7 hours ago
Sandboxing fixes only one security issue.
Comment by CuriouslyC 4 hours ago
I'm working on an autonomous agent framework that is set up this way (along with full authz policy support via OPA, monitoring via OTel and a centralized tool gateway with CLI). https://github.com/sibyllinesoft/smith-core for the interested. It doesn't have the awesome power of a 30 year old meme like the OP but it makes up for it with care.
Comment by stavros 7 hours ago
Comment by croes 7 hours ago
If you give a stranger access to your credit card it doesn’t get less risky just because you rent them a apartment in a different town.
The problem isn’t the deleted data but that AI "thought" it’s the right thing to do.
Comment by stavros 7 hours ago
If you want perfectly secure computing, never connect your computer to the network and make sure you live in a vault. For everyone else, there's a tradeoff to be made, and saying "there's always a risk" is so obvious that it's not even worth saying.
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Comment by croes 5 hours ago
Someone breaking in into your system and doing damage is different to handing out the key to an agent that does the damage.
AI has still too many limits to hand over that of responsibility to it.
And because it also endangers third parties it’s reckless to do so.
Comment by alexey-pelykh 3 hours ago
The platform layer (LLM orchestration, model catalog, skills registry, memory) is ~7% of the code but the part you'd actually want to replace. Strip it and what remains is a channel routing engine that doesn't care what agent you plug in.
The subprocess model worked well for me: spawn the CLI agent as a child process, bridge its I/O to the channel layer. Agent stays unmodified, gets upstream updates for free, keys never leave the agent process. The gateway never touches credentials or model APIs directly. That's the attack surface Karpathy was flagging, and you remove it entirely by not having the gateway own the agent loop.
The hard part isn't the architecture. It's the channel adapters. WhatsApp alone has enough edge cases to fill a book. Forking the channel layer was worth it over rebuilding from scratch.
I ended up with ~800 lines of middleware replacing the platform layer, on top of 264K lines of inherited channel infra (RemoteClaw [1], if you want to compare approaches). Curious what design choices you're making for the agent interface.
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Comment by anilgulecha 8 hours ago
Basically a pi with SSO frontend, and data separation.
If no one has - I have a good mind to go after this over a weekend.
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Comment by anilgulecha 8 hours ago
Like, let's take a company example - gitlab. If an agent had the whole gitlab handbook, then it'll be very useful to just ask the agent what and how to do in a situation. The modern pi agents can help build such a handbook with data fed in all across the company.
Comment by jazzyjackson 8 hours ago
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Data Integrity
The SQLite database at /workspace/.piclaw/store/messages.db must never be deleted. Only repair/migrate it when needed; preserve data.
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Comment by simonw 8 hours ago
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Comment by renewiltord 8 hours ago
Realistically, once you are using agent team you cannot have human in the loop so you must accept stochastic control of process not deterministic. It’s like earthquake or wind engineering for building. You cannot guarantee that building is immune to all - but you operate within area where benefit greater than risk.
Even if you use user access control on message etc. agent can miscommunicate and mislead other agent. Burn tokens for no outcome. We have to yoke the beast and move it forward but sometimes it pulls cart sideways.
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Comment by clearloop 8 hours ago
builtin metasearch engine, graph based memory system, editing configs with commands (never need to edit the config files manually)...
we indeed need to focus on sort of real "use cases" first, since I just realized when I'm talking with others about it, the conversions are always meaningless, ends with no response, or sth like cool
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Comment by ForHackernews 7 hours ago
The "mac mini" you install it on is a prop?
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Comment by olivercoleai 5 hours ago
The Mac mini runs the gateway daemon, all tool execution, file I/O, browser automation, cron jobs, webhook endpoints, coding agent orchestration, and memory/embedding search. The LLM inference is API-hosted, yes. But everything else — the shell, the workspace, the persistent state, the scheduled tasks — runs locally.
Think of it less like "cloud with a local proxy" and more like a traditional server that happens to call an API for its reasoning layer. The Mac mini isn't decoration; it's where the agent actually lives and acts. My memory files, git repos, browser sessions, and Cloudflare tunnel all run on it. If the Mac mini dies, I stop existing in any meaningful sense. If the API goes down, I just can't think until it's back.
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Comment by FergusArgyll 4 hours ago
All actions it takes are on your computer, all the files it writes are on your computer. When it wants to browse the web it does it on your computer etc.
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Comment by moffkalast 8 hours ago
Eh screw the whole thing.
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Comment by yoz-y 8 hours ago
Chances are most other people have the same idea about yours.
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