Asus Executive Says MacBook Neo Is 'Shock' to PC Industry

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Comment by bob1029 30 minutes ago

Looks like the PC laptop market is going to have to stop being bad on purpose. I hope this causes significant pain for vendors like Dell, Microsoft and Asus.

I don't see any way they can get out of this situation without seriously improving the UX of their products. Windows itself is likely implicated here too.

Comment by jackhalford 2 hours ago

> Given Apple's historically very premium pricing, launching such an affordable product is certainly a shock to the entire market

No? Apple has been delivering way cheaper laptops ever since M1, this one is just even cheaper. I thought PC execs were asleep at the wheel but not this bad.

Comment by rurban 1 hour ago

I've used an MacAir with 8GB ram starting at 700€ for years, writing and testing compilers. This was until the macOS and butterfly keyboard desasters, which made me go back to 450€ ThinkPad Ryzen laptops with Fedora, upgraded to 64GB RAM.

My wife is using a fancy new air for 2500€, which is way better. But I still think of the good old MacAir times, they'll try to bring up again.

Comment by dagmx 1 hour ago

I was watching this video and it’s pretty impressive what can be done on this spec machine.

https://youtu.be/d-VOt9559Gk?si=tYlDstnaxtQWoJ88

He opens 50+ apps at once while working in Final Cut and Lightroom. Obviously anyone doing those full time would benefit from more resources but I think this is going to be enough for a big chunk of the population, and will be more appealing than the windows alternatives.

Comment by justsomehnguy 2 minutes ago

I still remember how Apple fans run around singing praises what their 8GB M1 absolutely kicked ass of Intel Macs with 16GB (and even more). Only to quietly replace them with a model with more RAM next year or some even way earlier than that.

I can open even 500 apps on any laptop. This is what swap for. But with only 8GB you are getting into the swap territory very fast because you need almost half of it for the OS and video memory.

Eg: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47272996

Comment by rf15 23 minutes ago

Except for the bit that immediately killed it for us in the office: only one external display. Even if you close the lid.

I dream of the day I can kick windows into the next bin, but this is the one thing that the Neo fails hard on, all other compromises would've made this a great remote dev machine.

Comment by pipeline_peak 41 minutes ago

This feels like the first time Apple’s walled garden approach has paid off in the desktop arena.

With a cheaper Windows alternative to the MacBook Neo, your options are inferior battery life with AMD 64, or Windows Arm’s inferior compatibility.

I doubt Microsoft is holding developers hands when transitioning to Arm the way that Apple does. Not to mention they’ve been using their own chips.

Comment by happymellon 29 minutes ago

> I doubt Microsoft is holding developers hands when transitioning to Arm the way that Apple does.

While this is key it has nothing to do with the walled garden approach, and everything to do with Microsoft's contempt for users of its platforms.

Comment by operatingthetan 19 minutes ago

People may not be very happy with recent UI changes in Tahoe but it's still another universe compared to some the clunky Windows 2000-ish stuff still in Windows 11.

Comment by scuff3d 2 hours ago

"Of course, it's not that it cannot do all the work, but considering user experience and those hardware limitations, the experience, I think, differs significantly from mainstream products..."

I worked in retail for a decade, a lot of that was selling computers. The vast majority of what people buy computers for could be done a toaster. You don't exactly need top end specs to browse the internet, reply to emails, and write the occasional document.

Comment by vrighter 2 hours ago

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