U.S. military tested device that may be tied to Havana Syndrome on rats, sheep

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Comment by neom 1 day ago

The idea of microwaving rats (and sheep) makes me sick.

Comment by clipsy 1 day ago

Sometimes you just need to reheat mutton in a hurry.

Comment by Invictus0 1 day ago

For me, this is the smoking gun:

> Our confidential sources tell us the still classified weapon has been tested in a U.S. military lab for more than a year. Tests on rats and sheep show injuries consistent with those seen in humans. Also, as a separate part of the investigation, security camera videos have been collected that show Americans being hit. The videos are classified but they were described to us. In one, a camera in a restaurant in Istanbul captured two FBI agents on vacation sitting at a table with their families. A man with a backpack walks in and suddenly everyone at the table grabs their head as if in pain. Our sources say another video comes from a stairwell in the U.S. embassy in Vienna. The stairs lead to a secure facility. In the video, two people on the stairs suddenly collapse.

Comment by orbital-decay 1 day ago

>a camera in a restaurant in Istanbul captured two FBI agents on vacation sitting at a table with their families. A man with a backpack walks in and suddenly everyone at the table grabs their head as if in pain

So, the man was inconspicuously targeting a specific area in a public space without affecting himself and everyone else, using a device in a backpack? This just sounds... technically implausible.

Comment by sippeangelo 1 day ago

Microwaves are very directional. What about it sounds implausible?

Comment by orbital-decay 1 day ago

Microwaves are not directional, antennas are. They all have side and backlobes that would affect the carrier. To get something like this done, you have to:

- get enough backlobe attenuation to not affect yourself, but enough power and directionality to be useful against the target, also the beam should not be reflected by walls

- aim and activate it without anyone noticing (presumably by turning your back to the target), ensuring there's nobody else in the way

- the beam has to be wide enough to affect every target but narrow enough to not affect other people. This is a restaurant.

- presumably stay still long enough, because if this microwave magic works by mimicking brainwaves (if it does at all! biggest question), it should have relatively low modulation frequency.

All of this without raising suspicion. This needs James Bond levels of coordination and alignment of unknowns. Knowing how incompetent FSB/GRU and co are, I have a really hard time believing all this.

Comment by tim333 21 hours ago

Here's a guy on youtube with a diy microwave gun. I presume the Russian researchers can do better than some youtube demo. https://youtu.be/80kDn4vit_w?t=445

Comment by iberator 1 day ago

microwaves can be very very directional and operate from vast distances.

Comment by bell-cot 1 day ago

For those unfamiliar - the U.S. gov't has a centuries-long history of callous disregard for the lives and welfare of Americans who were faithfully serving their country. Not saying they are much different from other org's that way - but definitely keep it in mind, if you're feeling any patriotic urges.

With the number of Havana Syndrome incidents, and the relatively high profiles of the targets, you'd think that somebody would have developed miniaturized passive sensors (for microwave, sonic, etc. bursts) and started distributing those. Seems worth looking into, if you suspect you or someone you care about might become a target.

Comment by type0 1 day ago

What a nothing burger, next they'll say say it was given to them by aliens? Illegal aliens that ICE has deported that is.

Comment by bediger4000 1 day ago

Hey, the link leads to a summary of a 60 Minutes segment.

We know that CBS News Editor-in-chief Bari Weiss has spiked at least one major 60 Minutes story that was unfavorable for Trump. Why did Ms Weiss let this one through? Given her history and predilections, we can surmise that she thinks this story is good for Trump, or at least bad for his enemies. Looks like 60 Minutes bills it as a "massive CIA cover-up". Trump must be hunting for CIA heads for some reason. Has Iran War intelligence been particularly useless or something?

Comment by tim333 21 hours ago

I don't think the 60 Minutes thing is either good or bad for Trump. It's not something he's really been involved in.