A new Oracle Solaris Common Build Environment (CBE) release

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Comment by dsr_ 12 hours ago

I suppose they are looking for people who had not previously stuck their hand in the lawnmower.

Comment by buildbot 12 hours ago

I was looking up the Sparc S8 mentioned in the article and the first discussion that came up is quickly derailed due to worrying about copyright: https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/sparclinux/patch/202511...

Comment by imglorp 9 hours ago

Who's the target audience for that announcement?

a. Existing customers already got their hands chopped, their prices raised, or their lawyers poked. They're stuck with an abusive, litigious, opaque vendor and will migrate out when they can. Many are stuck.

b. Prospective customers must have some compatibility need or they'd look elsewhere.

c. Developers won't be fooled so rule them out :)

Comment by ForHackernews 10 hours ago

Comment by kl4m 9 hours ago

"You need to think of Larry Ellison the way you think of a lawnmower."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc&t=2308s

Start at 33:02 for full rant.

Comment by shrubble 11 hours ago

Illumos/OpenSolaris etc are great and install about as easily as FreeBSD, on desktop and server systems with Ethernet. Other stuff like WiFi etc is not as well supported.

It’s still my favorite OS, if it fits what I need it for.

Comment by maztaim 10 hours ago

What are your needs that it would fit? Oracle have you by the database?

Comment by shrubble 10 hours ago

It’s great for ZFS and for Zones, including Linux zones.

Comment by gt0 4 hours ago

I haven't used Solaris since the last time I used it for work over 10 years ago. Agree ZFS and Zones are both exceptional, I would still use Solaris now where it made sense.

Comment by hsjdjdjrj 10 hours ago

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Comment by RobotToaster 9 hours ago

I think I'd rather use hpux than deal with oracle

Comment by nubinetwork 9 hours ago

Hpux died on December 31, 2025

Comment by fweimer 8 hours ago

Mature Software Product Support without Sustaining Engineering through at least 31-Dec-2028

Apparently, it's out of support the same way RHEL 6 is out of support.

Comment by jordemort 12 hours ago

"We're about to take a bath on these datacenters, do we have any other viable lines of business left?"

Comment by heybales 11 hours ago

The Oracle business model is to rope you into a contract, set you up for failure, ignore you until you violate a license agreement, then sue you and rope you into another contract to avoid the lawsuit. If you're an Oracle customer, prepare to get sued... for something... anything really.

Comment by HackerThemAll 4 hours ago

I have not touched anything related to Oracle for as long as I remember.

Comment by whalesalad 12 hours ago

I wonder where Solaris is still actively being deployed and used.

Comment by chasil 11 hours ago

I think that OpenIndiana is where those with general interest in Solaris on x86_64 should go.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenIndiana

SmartOS, for example, is a more specialized application of the scions of OpenSolaris.

Here is a list of other distros that originated from the Illumos efforts after OpenSolaris was terminated:

-DilOS, with Debian package manager (dpkg + apt) and virtualization support, available for x86-64 and SPARC.

-NexentaStor, distribution optimized for virtualization, storage area networks, network-attached storage, and iSCSI or Fibre Channel applications employing the ZFS file system.

-OmniOS Community Edition, takes a minimalist approach suitable for server use.

-OpenIndiana, a distribution that is a continuation and fork in the spirit of the OpenSolaris operating system.

-SmartOS, a distribution for cloud computing with Kernel-based Virtual Machine integration.

-Helios, a distribution powering the Oxide Computer Rack.

-Tribblix, retro style distribution with modern components, available for x86-64 and SPARC.

-v9os, a server-only, IPS-based minimal SPARC distribution.

-XStreamOS, a distribution for infrastructure, cloud, and web development.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illumos#Distributions

Edit: From this blog entry, this is suspicious: "the committed support for Oracle Solaris until at least 2037" - does Solaris have a 2038 problem?

Comment by bigbuppo 11 hours ago

No 2037 problem. That's just 25 years after they killed the product.

Comment by ycombiredd 4 hours ago

As a former SUN sysadmin/netadmin (from SunOS 4.1.4 days), I vaguely remember the Solaris releases after 2.5.1, maybe to another re-version/branding called Solaris 7, maybe? And then not paying any attention after Oracle absorbed it. I was honestly surprised enough by this headline to click TFA, simply because I did not think Solaris even existed anymore.

Comment by jamesfinlayson 3 hours ago

One of Australia's bigger universities still had a Solaris server 15 years ago - no idea if it's still in use though.

Comment by pjmlp 9 hours ago

A few places, Fujitsu also has Solaris servers, and if you care about security, Solaris SPARC is the only production UNIX with hardware memory tagging in active use since 2015.

Comment by my123 7 hours ago

AmpereOne M with MTE is out nowadays

Comment by pjmlp 7 hours ago

Good to know, still I bet there are more Solaris SPARC deployments on the wild than GNU/Linux on AmpereOne M.

Comment by proxysna 11 hours ago

it's mostly OmniOS/SmartOS and other Illumos (descendant of OpenSolaris) distributions. All the Solaris 11 deployments i was aware of in mid-late 2010s are now either migrated to some sort of container setup of running on OmniOS.

Comment by coredog64 11 hours ago

My employer uses ZFS under AndrewFS (aka AFS) and I would bet dollars to donuts that the OS is Solaris.

Comment by nine_k 12 hours ago

Solaris proper, not Illumos?

Comment by whalesalad 11 hours ago

Either way, SPARC and the entire family seem to be entirely dead in the grand scheme of things. I don't know why anyone would develop for this platform.

Comment by claudex 11 hours ago

Solaris and Illumos are available on x86

Comment by nubinetwork 9 hours ago

But illumos doesn't run on sparc... granted I don't have the hardware, but if I did, it would be nice if I could use illumos.

Comment by shrubble 6 hours ago

Tribblix does, which is based on illumos - I have a V210 I installed it on, not too long ago...

Comment by iberator 8 hours ago

Nope.

Oracle SPARC S7, T8, and Fujitsu SPARC M12 still supported

Comment by whalesalad 7 hours ago

supported sure but its an ancient dying platform. sparc was discontinued almost 10 years ago.

Comment by sys_64738 3 hours ago

Oracle generated $3b in revenue from these systems last year.

Comment by kaladin-jasnah 9 hours ago

I think Oxide Computer uses it.

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