United States Completes WHO Withdrawal

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Comment by shubhamjain 1 day ago

> Going forward, the U.S. government will continue its global health leadership through existing and new engagements directly with other countries, the private sector, non-governmental organizations, and faith-based entities. U.S.-led efforts will prioritize emergency response, biosecurity coordination, and health innovation to protect America first while delivering benefits to partners around the world.

The funny thing about this administration is that they label existing system as "bad" and "corrupt", use that as justification to abandon it, and then proceed to recreate the same thing different way.

Comment by hackyhacky 1 day ago

The point is to enable corruption that benefits current office-holders and prevent any activity, corrupt or not, that benefits anyone else.

Comment by 0928374082 1 day ago

See Goldstein, "The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism" (1949)

Comment by jasomill 1 day ago

“For if leisure and security were enjoyed by all alike, the great mass of human beings who are normally stupefied by poverty would become literate and would learn to think for themselves; and when once they had done this, they would sooner or later realize that the privileged minority had no function, and they would sweep it away. In the long run, a hierarchical society was only possible on a basis of poverty and ignorance.”

Comment by xingped 1 day ago

You think they will actually replace it with something similar though. They won't. They have no desire to do that. Even in name. Just like all their other supposed plans - it's just smoke and mirrors and no one will actually do any such thing.

Comment by roenxi 1 day ago

I dunno, reading it in context of the whole statement, "...and its inability to demonstrate independence from the inappropriate political influence of WHO member states" deserves a bit of focus. The UN is structurally designed to give China and Russia outsized influence. Coordinating technical matters like healthcare through the UN does seem a bit unwise given that everyone is posturing up for some sort of Cold-war or potential WWIII style scenario. I don't think we've seen much deescalation of tension in the last decade.

Better to leave the bandwidth of the UN free to focus on diplomacy without distractions, the military situation is urgent.

Comment by hshdhdhj4444 1 day ago

> Coordinating technical matters like healthcare through the UN does seem a bit unwise given that everyone is posturing up for some sort of Cold-war or potential WWIII style scenario.

On the contrary, the fact that we have to coordinate technical matters like healthcare through the UN is a large part of the reason why the Cold War remained cold and we had WW2 within 20 years of WW1 but no WW3 in the 80 years since.

Until the US decided to re-elect a literal madman, the necessity of coordinating on technical matters was obvious to all, which meant these countries weee constantly talking, building relationships and communicating with each other which helped prevent minor conflagrations from escalating.

Comment by dc396 1 day ago

> The UN is structurally designed to give China and Russia outsized influence.

An interesting assertion. I presume you are implying outsized influence over the US (or do you mean every other country?). I'm honestly curious: can you describe this structural design?

Comment by roenxi 1 day ago

The thing that jumps to mind is the Security Council, which they can parley into diplomatic favours from other people. And the whole point of the UN is that it was the victors of WWII explaining to the rest of the world how international affairs were going to work, so I'd be pleasantly surprised if the special privileges stopped there.

And even without that, the UN isn't really set up to handle technical matters. It is a diplomatic club. The point is to give people a seat at the table without considering their competence.

Comment by pu_pe 1 day ago

The Security Council is controlled by the US and its allies (3 out of 5 permanent seats). And the Security Council does not decide on matters of public health like the WHO does. The WHO is staffed by very competent people, certainly more competent than RFK.

The UN has handled several technical matters successfully, including global vaccination programs.

Comment by N19PEDL2 1 day ago

Perhaps they mean that Russia, a corrupted warmonger weak country, has veto power, while more powerful, free and democratic countries have not.

Comment by sparqlittlestar 1 day ago

Honestly, ceteris paribus for the US

Comment by niceguy1827 1 day ago

Thank you sir. Love learning new things every day in a tech forum, especially Latin.

Comment by jjav 1 day ago

> proceed to recreate the same thing different way

Not a same or similar thing in any way. Everything that is being torn down is being replaced by grifter schemes where all that money is funneled to personal pockets.

Comment by RajBhai 1 day ago

NAFTA bad. USMCA good.

Comment by 0hw0t 1 day ago

Art of the Deal

Comment by pmarreck 1 day ago

> faith-based entities

Look, believe what you want, but praying literally has no known demonstrable deterministic scientific or medical effect on people

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efficacy_of_prayer

Comment by snehk 1 day ago

Not sure how it is in the US but in Germany there are many faith-based entities providing regular health services. Malteser would be one of them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malteser_Hilfsdienst_e.V.

Comment by fsh 1 day ago

These church-owned entities in Germany are almost 100% government fincanced [1], while abusing a loophole in the German constitution to discriminate their employees for religious reasons. For example, the Catholic ones are notorious for firing employees that get divorced. This system is an absolute disgrace, but the churches are still too powerful in German society and have so far been able to block any attempt at fixing the constitution.

[1] https://www.malteser-international.org/en/about-us/how-we-wo...

Comment by dcrazy 1 day ago

It’s not uncommon in the U.S. either. Providence Health is a Catholic nonprofit that owns 51 hospitals, including several of the big ones in Seattle. It was a big deal when they bought Swedish and people were afraid they would stop offering abortions even in cases of medical necessity.

Comment by dcrazy 1 day ago

Parent edited their comment. It used to just say “In Germany.” as if to dismiss the comment for not being about the United States.

I was not intending to say that Catholic healthcare providers in the U.S. are notorious for firing employees who get divorced. In fact, Providence got caught in controversy for firing an employee who refused to provide contraceptives on personal religious grounds.

Comment by snehk 1 day ago

My point was that they don't get funding to pray and instead provide real medical services.

Comment by pmarreck 1 day ago

> the Catholic ones are notorious for firing employees that get divorced

Wow.

catholics> divorce is bad mmkay?

also catholics> refuse to openly discuss the 2 biggest causes of divorce, sex and money

(I once got a dating profile banned... twice... on EHarmony... simply for expressing a sexual preference!)

Comment by dcrazy 1 day ago

What makes you think that Catholics don’t discuss money?

And yes, leading with sexual preferences on mainstream dating platforms is creep behavior.

Comment by pmarreck 1 day ago

I am ENTIRELY fine with faith providing moral support or justification to tangible human benefits. One of my favorite (and possibly world-famous) hospitals is St. Francis Heart Center https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Francis_Hospital_(Flower_H...

I am not fine with government funds being used to support "prayer" as a means to a more healthy end. In fact I think this arguably violates the 1st Amendment to the Constitution.

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Comment by King-Aaron 1 day ago

There is literally no point invoking research and factual information into an argument with a religious person.

Comment by plagiarist 1 day ago

I sure wish demonstrable facts had mattered to the constituents at any point in time over the last 10 years.

Comment by King-Aaron 1 day ago

Amathia runs rife in these people.

Comment by pmarreck 1 day ago

I don't know how this is the first time I'm hearing this word, but thank you for that lesson! "Amathia" is indeed a source of evil IMHO.

Comment by pixxel 1 day ago

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Comment by geldedus 1 day ago

Not surprising, given the state of healthcare in the US

Comment by arisAlexis 1 day ago

The fact that Tedros is still the head while he mishandled completely the biggest catastrophe of our era should be taken seriously.

Comment by ChrisArchitect 1 day ago

Earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46727669

Comment by daft_pink 1 day ago

Finally!

Comment by standardUser 1 day ago

Maybe the Board of Peace can pick up the slack: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Board_of_Peace

Comment by BLKNSLVR 1 day ago

> The WHO delayed declaring a global public health emergency and a pandemic during the early stages of COVID-19, costing the world critical weeks as the virus spread.

Isn't this administrations position that COVID was kinda a nothingburger anyway. Not worth all the fuss?

Not that it's out of the ordinary for this administration, just another grain on an increasingly large pile of hypocrisy sand. Whatever serves their agenda.

> The U.S. is the world’s leading force in protecting public health, saving lives, and responding rapidly to infectious disease outbreaks. Going forward, the U.S. government will continue its global health leadership through existing and new engagements directly with other countries, the private sector, non-governmental organizations, and faith-based entities. U.S.-led efforts will prioritize emergency response, biosecurity coordination, and health innovation to protect America first while delivering benefits to partners around the world.

Firstly, let's update it to "was the world's leading force". Secondly, I hope they're not going to be foisting their newfound vaccine skepticism[0] on the rest of the world. Holy shit if they do.

[0]: https://www.statnews.com/2026/01/22/vaccine-policy-adviser-k...

Some choice quotes in that article.

Comment by alexgieg 1 day ago

> I hope they're not going to be foisting their newfound vaccine skepticism[0] on the rest of the world.

Unfortunately they are spreading it. Everywhere US far-right propaganda touches, including via local branches of American Christian denominations, becomes an anti-vax vector.

Brazil is a prime example. We have here a copycat version of the US far-right in the form of Bolsonaro worshippers, aligned with Pentecostal and Neopentecostal churches, spreading anti-vax rhetorics all around social media, to the point it's influencing people outside their bubble.

Comment by pixxel 1 day ago

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Comment by phendrenad2 1 day ago

This is extremely disappointing all-around. The World Health Organization was at the forefront of sounding the alarm about COVID-19 early on, and was one of the first to start preparing for the eventuality that it would spread beyond it's origin point. While most people in the US were still saying it wasn't airborne, and downplaying the spread potential and health effects of COVID, the WHO was sounding the alarm on that, too. Ah yes. A little satire does the heart good, you know?

Comment by mahirsaid 1 day ago

I agree there is only so much an organization can do After the spread, countries themselves have to take action in behalf of the organization's directions and procedures. The U.S. at the time took way too long to act, this was a fact, clearly why some governors were in a tweeting match and arguments over this issue. I do not agree with this direction. Clearly there is alternative motive behind this amongst the multiple other useless withdraws and steps taking at this time.

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Comment by eska 1 day ago

I don’t know how people can defend this organization and criticize the US government for losing trust in it, when there’s a myriad of scandals like this one.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UlCYFh8U2xM&pp=ygUUd2hvIHRhaXd...