You used to be able to just create a Native GUI App in 10 seconds

Posted by Ezhik 1 day ago

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Comment by ktpsns 1 day ago

I remember that not having the right VB DLL was a frequent issue when trying to run EXE files produced by people with visual basic. For me, this Windows "nocode" environment was a big gatekeeper which hindered me in learning programming. It may sound a bit sentimental, but I learned C with Linux, because docs where readily available and open. I literally read man pages.

Today the tooling is just better. Just think, for instance, of the go and rust tool chains which easily produce ready to ship EXE files. Classical toolkits such as Qt still are around.

Comment by kwanbix 1 day ago

If you did it in Delphi it will work no matter what.

Comment by gaigalas 1 day ago

"no matter what" is pushing it.

It was very common for Delphi programs to use stuff that required external DLLs.

Comment by kwanbix 12 hours ago

Only if you wanted to include database options.

Comment by gaigalas 11 hours ago

Connectivity to databases was one of Delphi's main selling points.

I think one dude spread the myth of no DLLs in the Twitter thread, lots of people repeated it, and since Delphi 6/7 is not around anymore and it's hard to check, they got away with a slight historical innacuracy.

Comment by hippo22 1 day ago

I remember not being able to get my C++ compiler to work on Windows and I remember struggling to get basic Linux functionality working. Software was hard back then.

Comment by satiric 1 day ago

Someone replied to that post "notice how fast everything is to launch", but did Visual Basic really start up that fast back in the day? I'm old enough to have used XP as a kid, and I remember the languorous boot times, but I never programmed on it. My guess is that XP is running in a VM on modern hardware in this GIF.

Comment by Bratmon 1 day ago

I can confirm that it took way longer than that on actual contemporary hardware.

Comment by gaigalas 1 day ago

VB6 was old by the time XP appeared, and XP lasted for a long time. It was fast.

Comment by amatecha 1 day ago

Can view without subjecting yourself to "X": https://xcancel.com/tsoding/status/1998403967718400376

Comment by coldtea 1 day ago

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Comment by amatecha 1 day ago

Was there an actual point or are you just being contrarian for the sake of it?

Comment by coldtea 1 day ago

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Comment by danielbln 1 day ago

You cannot read the full thread unless you have an account and are logged in. That's reason enough to appreciate a mirror link like that.

Comment by morshu9001 1 day ago

I have no issue with Twitter's values or ownership. The website is just annoying and laggy, so I appreciate a readonly mirror.

Comment by amatecha 1 day ago

Did I say anything about morals or compromise or anything? Now you're just ranting to the void about a straw man, not furthering conversation in any way. I think you're the only one who needs to get over something here: the fact that people might not want to visit a certain website. The shock and horror! Take your negativity elsewhere.

Comment by coldtea 1 day ago

>Did I say anything about morals or compromise or anything

So many have that it's an obvious deduction, and the bit 'subjecting yourself to "X"' alludes to the same.

Do you rather claim that X's UX is uniquely horrible than an alternative link was needed for those that can't bear it? If so, well...

Anyways, I just said we can handle the original link just fine. You asked for further clarification.

Comment by SilentM68 1 day ago

There was a time when there were some VB clone languages including Envelop Basic: https://members.tripod.com/joe__shmoe/indext.htm These tools did a pretty good job of creating forms and software. Rebol was another language that was sleek at making UI Form: https://www.rebol.com/index-lang.html Now a days, you need to master many technologies to create one UI component. Too much bloat.

Comment by treesknees 1 day ago

There is a modern compiler/ide that’s improving (but also preserving compatibility with) VB6 https://twinbasic.com/

I was able to load up a VB6 project I worked on in high school and it compiled and ran with no changes. Pretty neat.

Comment by JaggerJo 1 day ago

You can still do this!

The only difference is that a lot of apps prioritize cross platform UIs over good, fast native UIs.

WinForms and WPF are still well supported.

Comment by morshu9001 1 day ago

Would've thought the explosion of web apps would kick MS and Apple in the pants, but here we are. Native dev is still annoying and is arguably getting harder. There's no reason making an app work for just one specific platform should have more friction than doing it for all of them.

Comment by istillcantcode 1 day ago

I tried this using RosettaCode examples awhile ago and its still possible in quite a few languages. I was trying to find examples where you could just copy the code in, click run, and get a GUI.

Comment by dham 1 day ago

I used PureBasic back in like 2003 or 2004. It was super simple. Looks like it's still around and the site looks unchanged since then. Probably crazy fast on modern hardware

Comment by kop316 1 day ago

I mean...at least for GTK on Linux, you still can? It won't be 10 seconds (probably closer to 30-40 seconds) since you have to go through a couple of prompts to name it, decide a license, etc., but with:

https://apps.gnome.org/Builder/

You can do the same thing. In fact, this was the exact method I used to make a few GTK apps.

Comment by morshu9001 1 day ago

but then GTK has issues with some DEs supposedly

Comment by kop316 7 hours ago

I saw this comment a while ago, and even now, I have no idea what point you are trying to make.

Comment by joeld42 1 day ago

Take a look at Slint or Avalonia if you miss this experience.

And I'll take needing an internet connection over having to install Visual Basic from a stack of CDs.

Comment by gabrielsroka 1 day ago

In HTML

  <button onclick="alert('Hello')">Command1</button>

Comment by jaredcwhite 1 day ago

Sure, but that's not a native GUI app.

Comment by gaigalas 1 day ago

Save that as `app.hta` on Windows (from XP up to this day!), then double click it.

Not native GUI, but as fast and useful as one.

It's more limited nowadays, but you can still do a lot.

Comment by nwhnwh 1 day ago

twitter.com?

Is that from OP or HN?