Australian teens lose access to social media as ban takes effect

Posted by tartoran 12 hours ago

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Comment by N_Lens 6 hours ago

Quite a decisive move by the Australian government. I don't know if it's a move in the right direction or not but the research clearly shows that around the time social media became mainstream, teens' and preteens' mental health took a nosedive (Especially girls).

Comment by hallole 5 hours ago

Hugely decisive! Feels more like a policy for idyllic hypotheticals. "Suppose we could ban social media..." well, hey, they actually did it.

I'm very interested to see how their socializing evolves in response to such a shock. Do the social behaviors of pre-internet times re-emerge? "Third spaces" reappear overnight? We shall see!

Comment by akst 2 hours ago

The success so far is really just political, which has largely been shutting down debate and dismissing calls for some kind of cost analysis of what we risk losing in enforcing this.

Whenever someone brings up this stuff, the politicians take the tone that "we won't let anyone get in the way of protecting children", and this is in response to people who in good faith think this can be done better. Media oligopolist love it because it regulates big tech, so they've been happy to platform supporters of the policy as well.

Third spaces won't reappear because the planning system in most cities shuts anything down the moment someone files a compliant. They get regulated out of existence the moment police express concern young people might gather there. The planning system (which in NSW/Sydney is the worse) has only gotten worse since the 80s after the green bans. It was largely put in place to allow for community say in how cities are shape, which sounds nice but it's mostly old people with free time participating who don't value 3rd spaces, even if they might end up liking them. They just want to keep things the same and avoid parking from getting overly complicated (and this is a stone throw away from train stations and the CBD).

Third places can be fixed by reforming planning which is slowly gaining momentum via YIMBY movements, but this social media ban is just not a serious contribution to changing that. If anything Social media phenomenon like Pokemon GO contributed more to these third places lighting up.

Governance in Australia is very paternalistic, it's a more high functioning version of the UK in that sense. I think it might be in part due to the voting system being a winner takes all single seat electorate preferential voting system which has a median voter bias for least controversial candidates.

As a kid I always felt being in Australia you missed out on a lot of things people got to do in America, that has slowly changed as media and technology has become less bound by borders but looks like that being undone.

Comment by rainonmoon 3 hours ago

Given that “social media” is in fact not banned and all this does is impact a select (and frankly logically inconsistent) list of services, this seems very unlikely. Children are still free to be groomed and gamble on Roblox and join servers belonging to The Com on Discord. To be clear I don’t think those services should be regulated by this obscene law either but this isn’t going to bring back any kind of halcyon era for kids. It will expand the surveillance of and shame around young people’s internet use, however.

Comment by anakaine 2 hours ago

How so? It has been implemented so that age verification is a token only, a yes/no authorisation. The age verification service doesnt get browsing details, and the site providing content doesnt get any additional user details beyond what they would likely already have, including those subject to PII legislation.

Comment by rainonmoon 2 hours ago

> It has been implemented so that age verification is a token only, a yes/no authorisation.

This is misinformation. The legislation does not specify a single particular implementation for age-based verification and there's absolutely no single "age verification service" that platforms are legislated to use. Instead they're required to verify users' ages based on several recommended methods, including age inference. https://digitalrightswatch.org.au/2025/12/03/what-you-need-t...

Further, the Communications Minister herself regarding whether she's concerned about people bypassing authentication-based age verification checks: "If you’re an adult - you probably won’t need to do anything extra to prove your age, because like I said before, these platforms have plenty of data to infer your age." https://minister.infrastructure.gov.au/wells/speech/address-...

Comment by protocolture 4 hours ago

>well, hey, they actually did it.

They passed legislation, its not clear at all that they succeeded.

Comment by deminature 5 hours ago

As an Australian experiencing this first hand and considerably older than 16, absolutely nothing has changed. It seems like all the social networks are doing age estimation of accounts and only taking action on those that fail and are detected as underage. The change is otherwise completely invisible if you're an adult user. Obviously I'm only a sample size of 1, but I've not heard of any other adults being adversely affected by this, so it seems the estimation is accurate.

Pretty well executed - I'm impressed. Given how seamlessly this occurred, it will undoubtedly be rolled out in Europe next year, as the EU has expressed an interest in doing so, but was waiting to see how the implementation went in Australia.

Comment by bigfatkitten 4 hours ago

Nothing has changed for my 15 year old either. It’s business as usual today for her.

She says only one of her friends has been challenged by a platform so far, and that was by Snapchat. That friend got another 14 year old friend to pass the facial age detection check on her behalf.

Comment by eviks 1 hour ago

Interesting, was she unable to pass the test just didn't even risk it, thinking the algo is good and can reliably detect reality?

Comment by rkagerer 1 hour ago

> pass the facial age detection

Are you kidding me? So the answer is let's let some random vendors used by said corporation scan her face? This feels like using DNA sequencing to confirm you're tall enough to ride the rollercoaster.

Comment by bigfatkitten 18 minutes ago

It’s just as reliable as you’d expect from a system that relies on shitty cellphone camera pics.

They’re trying to guess the age of someone who could pass for 11 or for 22, and who with careful use of makeup could push that figure in either direction.

Comment by vintermann 1 hour ago

Apropos social media and age, I have some relatives with the last name of Aam. (Åm or Aam is an old farm in the Volda area of Sunnmøre, Norway).

If you try searching them in Facebook, you get a message telling you your search has been stopped and you should seek help you sicko, searching for... "Age abuse material" maybe? I don't know why it freaks out on those three letters, but it does.

This was in the news a year ago, and they still haven't changed it. Go and try if you want.

So allow me to doubt that the implementation is going to be smooth. For you maybe. If you instead end up in some algorithmic Kafka nightmare, don't count on your social media friends to notice.

Comment by protocolture 4 hours ago

>Pretty well executed - I'm impressed.

It seems like a handful of sites havent even switched over. Most are just estimating. Theres no clear indication that the execution has been anything but botched, unless convenience for older people was the only metric.

Comment by rainonmoon 3 hours ago

The government have previously stated they won’t pursue breaches unless they’re particularly egregious anyway so this is basically shameless political theatre.

Comment by protocolture 3 hours ago

ABC did a poll of a large number of kids affected by this, and only 6% estimated the legislation would be successful.

Comment by NoPicklez 5 hours ago

Pretty much aligns with how I have felt it here in Aus as well

Comment by about3fitty 7 hours ago

Besides this being ineffective for the motivated, it might have a subtle antitrust effect.

As kids find alternative platforms, perhaps they will be vendor locked to them instead of the Meta empire.

Comment by cal_dent 1 hour ago

I don't necessarily think this as it is will "work" but I'm all for someone at least trying to do something. Yes, there are a bunch of externalities and potential second order effects that don't sit well with me but, at this stage, I'd rather some attempt at trying to regulate than throwing up hands and saying its all too hard.

Also, dont buy the this is the slippery slope to more authoritarianism etc. as an argument against it because if they're going to go down that path they would anyway whether they did this or not frankly

Anyway, it might not work 100% of the time, hell maybe even <10% but any additional friction to knock this kind of social media from being so ubiquitous is a small victory in my eyes

Comment by eviks 1 hour ago

If you just want to try something that doesn't work, why not legislate touching grass every morning without all the downsides of a dumb blanket ban?

Comment by protocolture 4 hours ago

Its crazy how the AusGov has just tried to turn this into some kind of nationalistic celebration. Passing laws isolating children isnt to be celebrated by lighting up national monuments.

Comment by batiudrami 2 hours ago

Isolating children? They’re schoolchildren! They see their peers at school every day.

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Comment by falaki 5 hours ago

I really hope other nations, including the United States, copy this. Australia proved that it is possible. I think the results will be so overwhelmingly positive that others will take notice. Good job Australia!

Reading "Anxious Generation" is a must for all parents in this day and age.

Comment by AngryData 5 hours ago

Isn't it a little early to declare success? I think the bigger worry with the US though is not whether it is technically possible, but whether anyone in power cares to actually help kids versus using this it as an excuse to implement Orwellian surveillance upon citizens.

Comment by anakaine 2 hours ago

Surveillance could be part of it, if you let it be. Improved mental health, education, and social outcomes for each generation is also pretty darned important.

Comment by Cpoll 4 hours ago

> Reading "Anxious Generation" is a must for all parents in this day and age.

Great, another Oprah's book club book that assures parents that there's just one easy trick to saving your children.

Comment by protocolture 4 hours ago

While I am definitely in favor of the US causing itself more damage, its actually quite sickening to see people spruiking this legislation.

First of all, Australia has proven nothing, kids are stepping politely over this barrier without issue.

Second we are already hearing from disabled teens losing their only social lifeline.

Congratulations, you have isolated and disenfranchised a bunch of kids.

Comment by anakaine 2 hours ago

The changes are not even 12 hours old for most of Australia and people are declaring failure. Far out.

Comment by tartoran 5 hours ago

Of course it is possible, why would it not? I'm glad this is happening and I'm sure it'll follow in other countries, probably not the in the US though. Frankly I really hope most people just get off social media's grip and start interacting the way we used to.

Comment by tamimio 1 hour ago

I hope it won’t, because the whole thing is just a medium to enable digital ID using fears as a justification, in this time it’s kids.

The whole ‘anxious generation’ isn’t because of social media, it’s because the new generations are hopeless and helpless (incl genz and millennials too), wherever you look in any domain, it’s bleak times waiting ahead for them, boomers fucked them up severely and now want to suppress them with laws and bills and control them because they know for a fact something will snap at this current rate.