Why Startups Die
Posted by makle 4 days ago
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Comment by markdjacobsen 1 day ago
For other failed founders out there... I found very few resources that could help me navigate the aftermath, so I wrote the book I wish I'd had. It's a passion project, so I give it away for free. It's titled "Eating Glass: The Inner Journey Through Failure and Renewal."
Amazon/Audible link: https://www.amazon.com/Eating-Glass-Journey-Through-Failure/...
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Comment by asim 1 day ago
We have to look at the world differently. OK there's Elon with his effed up childhood and maniacal need to "save humanity" but when you really get down to it, he falters at the simplest questions about life. This man doesn't know what's real and what's not. Let's be clear, those we follow are just human and often what gets them to where they are, while its hard work, if it wasn't them, it would be someone else and those people would be just potentially in the right place, at the right time, and sacrificing things that maybe we shouldn't sacrifice. Life went on long before tech and it will continue long after tech.
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Comment by pedrozieg 1 day ago
What I’ve seen kill companies is the mismatch between those two curves: the time it takes to get real signal from the market vs the time a small group of humans can tolerate living in permanent crisis mode. In a ZIRP world you could paper over that with cheap capital; in 2025 you can’t. Calling that “suicide” makes it sound like a failure of grit, when it’s often just updating on new information about your life and the macro environment and deciding this particular lottery ticket isn’t worth any more years.
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Comment by ChrisMarshallNY 1 day ago
I grew up in a world, where companies were supposed to be ongoing concerns, with no end in sight. You established a company, and worked towards achieving at least an equilibrium, if not growth. Most brick-and-mortar companies are like this. The focus is on the product/service provided by the company, and all efforts are devoted to maximizing efficiency and steady profitability. Plans are made with a long view, as the company needs to be around to support their product. I know a lot of folks that own/run standard companies. None of them want to sell the company (it does happen, but it's an unusual thing; usually around the time they want to retire).
A standard company might consider an IPO to be their "exit."
Tech companies seem to have the company as the product. They have a plan to "exit," i.e. sell the company. That means they work on making the company, itself into an attractive package, and their product/service is simply a tool to maximize the company's attractiveness. In this case, descending into debt, in order to make the company look good in the short term, makes sense.
I could see this resulting in a situation, where the product made by the company is doing OK, but the company is not succeeding in being sold, so is considered a "failure."
Comment by makle 1 day ago
In tech — especially with VC money involved — the company itself becomes the product. An exit isn’t a nice-to-have, it’s the model. That pushes founders toward growth over profit and narrative over durability.
It doesn’t mean tech companies are “fake,” but it does mean a startup can look busy and promising while still drifting toward failure if the long-term fundamentals never arrive.
Some of the strongest startups today are the ones that intentionally step away from that exit mindset and build for resilience instead.
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Comment by ChrisMarshallNY 1 day ago
I used to work for a 100-year-old Japanese corporation. They absolutely refused to go into debt, or seek investors. It could be challenging, getting them to loosen their pursestrings.
But they survived depressions, recessions, and even being bombed in WWII. They had a massive implosion, a few years back, that would have killed most companies (it resulted in me being laid off), but it looks like they are getting their feet under them again.
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Comment by dig1 1 day ago
It depends on the kind of investors you want to attract for your startup. Some investors are interested in building a slow-growth, long-term, stable company, while others prefer a higher-risk approach and will expect fast results. IMHO choosing the right kind of capital is just as important as focusing on the product.
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The original sensor got discontinued, I have some savings again and would love to try the same with radar approach. Anyone willing to analyze well being of old people from radar data together?
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Comment by OtherShrezzing 1 day ago
Lots of this article relates to the reasons startups died when cash was freely available - both from VCs and from the markets you were trying to find product in. For example, if you started an online learning company in March 2020, you'd have hit product right away (along with a thousand competitors), and been lathered with cash from every direction. But three years later, all of those startups were struggling, and I don't know of _any_ that survived. That's not a case of the business owners in 1000 discrete companies giving up. That's the entire world economy reverting back to in-person learning, and the disappearance of the ultra-low interest rates for the company to fall back on while it pivots.
In 2025, founders need to be acutely aware of exogenous factors, as they can be business-obliterating events without the social safety net of 0-1% IR.
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Comment by ryanSrich 1 day ago
The symptom of wanting to give up is because you aren't growing fast enough
The symptom of founder turmoil is because whatever strategy you're currently using isn't growing the company fast enough
The symptom of running out of money is because you're not hitting your sales targets
Comment by paddleon 1 day ago
Does it work the other way? If the company isn't growing, do you close it? When/how do you decide this? What if the growth is just around the corner if you just solve this just one more thing?
Comment by 2ICofafireteam 1 day ago
A similar thing seems to apply to marriages: If the money and sex are good, any other BS in life is easier to tolerate.
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> Startups have a notorious failure rate – some estimates say 9 out of 10 startups eventually fail. Yet, contrary to what many first-time founders expect, startups rarely fail because a giant competitor swoops in or because of some external “homicide.” Instead, most startups die by “suicide,” meaning their demise is self-inflicted by internal issues. As YC founder Paul Graham once noted, “Startups are more likely to die from suicide than homicide.” In my experience building two startups, I’ve seen that the biggest threats usually come from within the company’s own walls, not from the outside world.
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Startups have an incredibly small survival rate. One in ten startups survives. The ones that survive don't survive simply because a giant competitor didn't kill it or because some external affliction didn't cause it to fail. Counterintuitively, the startups that survived didn't actively try to kill themselves by internal issues.(The rest I can copy paste) As YC founder Paul Graham once noted, “Startups are more likely to die from suicide than homicide.” In my experience building two startups, I’ve seen that the biggest threats usually come from within the company’s own walls, not from the outside world.
Comment by DannyBee 1 day ago
Just more bare assertions.
You could easily write the exact opposite article (ie “exactly as people believe, most startups run out of money well before they give up internally” or whatever) and it would sound exactly as true
Comment by bhouston 1 day ago
I noticed that too. 100% mostly written by AI.
Comment by BirAdam 1 day ago
If you are building a better <insert product here>, this must be heavily and clearly marketed. Otherwise, people have zero reason to switch. Why mess with what's working?
Additionally, just being cheaper doesn't make a product better. If I were starting a new effort, the cheaper part might be enough. If I already have stuff in production, cheaper isn't sufficient.
Feel free to tell me I'm wrong, but these are my observations.
Comment by makle 1 day ago
A lot of founders underestimate how hard it is to get someone to switch to a new product. Unless you’re 10x better in a way that’s obvious, people stick with what already works. And as you said, being cheaper rarely moves the needle once something is in production.
The allergy to marketing is real too. Many teams think a good product will “speak for itself,” but in a crowded market, clarity and distribution matter just as much as the tech.
Your observations line up with what I’ve seen as well.
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Comment by lizknope 1 day ago
The first had been around for about 4 years when I joined and had products that made money. They were trying to get acquired. They had partnered with 2 companies making products specifically for them. One of them offered to buy the company for $30 million but the founders thought their company was worth $300 million. They said no and then money started to run out and people started leaving. In the end the assets were sold for $2 million.
The second startup was created by former coworkers and I joined after it had existed for 4 months. We worked like crazy for the first year and got our prototype out. We had a lot of interest but it took me a while to realize that the 3 founders already had net worths from $5 million to billionaire level. When I heard about offers in the $30 million range they just weren't interested in selling for so little. I left after 3 years and the company floundered another 2 years until they shut it down as people left.
Comment by makle 1 day ago
You can survive almost anything in a startup except delusion about what the company is worth. Turning down a realistic exit, or holding out for a number that only exists in your head, creates a slow death spiral: morale drops, talent leaves, and eventually the market decides for you.
Really appreciate you sharing these — they highlight a pattern that happens far more often than people think.
Comment by recursivedoubts 1 day ago
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Comment by bhouston 1 day ago
If you are failing giving up is sometimes the right option. Many startups are based on assumptions/predictions that turn out to be wrong. And it is hard to pivot if you’ve spent the money and committed or not worth it if your cap table is wrecked.
BTW this mostly read like it was mostly written by AI. The various bolded text, missing the point, and emdashes.
Comment by makle 1 day ago
And fair feedback on the writing style. Appreciate you calling it out. I am not a native speaker, so I definitely used AI to help me formulate my ideas & opinions.
Comment by leoc 1 day ago
(yes, /s)
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Comment by makle 1 day ago
Neither approach is inherently better, but they create totally different failure modes. Slow, steady growth can keep a company alive for years.
Comment by xandrius 1 day ago
Sure, it might not make you a billionaire but you end up still being your own boss, not stress out if investors suddenly change mind on what's cool, etc.
Comment by francoispiquard 1 day ago
Having VC gamble on start-up all the time is just not sustainable. If a product is not generating $ then maybe it deserves to die
Comment by zwnow 1 day ago
Somewhat agree. Depends on the product, if its novel and does not do its job well enough to generate a revenue stream it does yea. If it's in a market where some big corp has a monopoly I'd love to be able to see whether the monopoly killed it silently, like Amazon does with many many startups (predatory pricing).
Monopolies are creating unfair competition scenarios for businesses ensuring them to stay alone at the top... Idk what happened to competition but im tired of local shops closing due to people buying everything from a predatory corporation.
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Comment by mjg2 1 day ago
As a topic or metaphor, I'm not advocating for suicide to be avoided, but your post struck on the toxic bravado that VCs have, especially Silicon Valley VCs with their Drama, and why I am much much more selective on fundraising for my projects.
People talk about "finding the right founder" but really it's finding the right environment to perform and excel in. The culture from SV is almost Swiftian in how it tries to devour its young. And yet creatives get "oh it's my fault for picking the wrong copilot" from the experience.
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Comment by jakewins 1 day ago
So for example the first chunk there, cohort of companies that started March 1994, there were 13% still operating 10 years later in 2024.
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Comment by makle 1 day ago
Growing fast without a solid solution underneath is a dangerous combo. If you’re not solving a real, painful problem for someone, no amount of funding or storytelling will save you.
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